European Union to issue "Green Pass" to those vaccinated, restrict those not vaccinated....

[lyle_destroys]

I am definitely not anti vax, if I was high risk at all I would be getting the vaccine, but I have an big problem with the federal government requiring "X" to keep your natural and constitutionally protected rights.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

nope. Pretty amazing place.

I disagree 100%. Extremely over rated and ultra liberal. No thanks.

 

[ODB]

I disagree 100%. Extremely over rated and ultra liberal. No thanks.

well, I guess it’s two against one, so Europe must indeed suck. I will have to revisit my experiences there and try to understand where I had it all wrong.

 

[roadrunner]

You had better give a sh t, because as the EU goes so goes Biden, Inc.
Read the posting right below yours for true enlightenment.....

Many guys here will want to travel for Canadian sheep, goat, moose etc, and without a vax card good luck with that. I've always suspected that a 'proof of vax' would be required for travel and it's why we both got the damn shots, aside from not wanting actual Covid.....

And why do you live your life hingng on what dumbass biden says or does?

He is not king and nobody is subservient to him.

People are worried about what hunt they can and cannot do that they are willing to sell their birthright for a bowl of pottage. No wonder the deranged keeps winning...

 

[roadrunner]

And what is next? The government will start demanding kids have certain vaccines before going to kindergarden? Having to pass a test and have a license to drive on public roads? The government requiring you to register and have insurance your vehicle? They may even try to dictate how much alcohol you can consume before driving or fire your guns in town. Those fascist bastards.

And most restrictions are totally irrelevant and unnecessary.

Register a vehicle? Why? People have become dumbed down because someone else told them their idea is better...

 

[seldomseensmith]

Man I wish I saw this thread before I got "The Mark of the beast." Sounds bad. Put it on my tab.

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[Gobbler36]

We’ve never stopped, cured, or prevented a virus? You mean like smallpox or polio?

Yeah yeah thats everyone’s go to, there are other arguments as to why those are not around any longer. go check em out and hear the other sides of the story and use logic instead of what a government agency has to say

 

[MattB]

H
Hopefully they will require you to pass a test before you reproduce.
I don't care what they do in the EU as that is their business, but we have a constitution here and I suggest you review it, specifically the 14th amendment, privledges and immunities clause, articles of the confederation, and letters from people such as James Madison and Alexander Hamilton.

Or perhaps you can point out to me which of the things I listed have been deemed unconstitutional? Maybe it is you who are in need of the review?

 

[thinhorn_AK]

well, I guess it’s two against one, so Europe must indeed suck. I will have to revisit my experiences there and try to understand where I had it all wrong.

If you like it then great. I have absolutely zero desire to visit again or live there. Also, people like you are really annoying. Saying something like “Europe sucks” is obviously tongue in cheek but people like you always pop up and get all hurt over things on the internet that aren’t meant to be taken seriously.

 

[Nomadx2]

Talking to my guide in Canada, I think if you want to get into Canada, you will need a vaccination card. They are just as liberal as Europe.

Pretty sure many countries will have this policy as a default.

 

[ODB]

If you like it then great. I have absolutely zero desire to visit again or live there. Also, people like you are really annoying. Saying something like “Europe sucks” is obviously tongue in cheek but people like you always pop up and get all hurt over things on the internet that aren’t meant to be taken seriously.

“People like me” aren’t in anyway hurt by anything on the internet. The internet is fake, don’t you know, a specter, a shade of reality: simulacra. “People like me” know that.

 

[EJFS]

And what is next? The government will start demanding kids have certain vaccines before going to kindergarden? Having to pass a test and have a license to drive on public roads? The government requiring you to register and have insurance your vehicle? They may even try to dictate how much alcohol you can consume before driving or fire your guns in town. Those fascist bastards.

The real question is- where do you draw your line?

 

[MattB]

The real question is- where do you draw your line?

In so far as the vaccine is concerned, I agree people should not be forced. Private institutions should be able to set their rules as they see fit.

I do think it is ironic that some of the anti-vaxxers who early on said the at-risk in society should shelter in place while they should be allowed to go on about their business may be threatened with similar restrictions. My opinion is many will scream bloody murder when they learn how uncomfortable that shoe is when placed on the other foot.

 

[5MilesBack]

I do think it is ironic that some of the anti-vaxxers who early on said the at-risk in society should shelter in place while they should be allowed to go on about their business may be threatened with similar restrictions.

I don't think anybody wanted mandated sheltering for those at risk. What was said or should have been said, was that "those at high risk.......should choose on their own what's best for them while the rest of society goes about their business, and if that means sheltering then so be it". Same can be said now for those that aren't vaccinated.......that choice should be left to everyone to make on their own given the situation. That's why we live in America, because we have the freedom to make those choices for ourselves, that the government shouldn't be making for anyone.

And everyone that has an issue with voting ID's as being racist, should also be calling these vaccine passes as racist. Because how on earth can you prove that you've had the vaccines to get the pass, without proper ID?

 

[Gobbler36]

In so far as the vaccine is concerned, I agree people should not be forced. Private institutions should be able to set their rules as they see fit.

I do think it is ironic that some of the anti-vaxxers who early on said the at-risk in society should shelter in place while they should be allowed to go on about their business may be threatened with similar restrictions. My opinion is many will scream bloody murder when they learn how uncomfortable that shoe is when placed on the other foot.

I never once said that in any case, my stance on any thing is its an individual’s choice. period. whether quarintine, vaccination, abortion, etc. I don’t want my tax dollars going to abortion but if a mother feels that’s what she wants to do she has to live with that... I digress but the vaccine issue is all about choice to me, provide people with facts and let them choose and don’t penalize people one way or the other

 

[thinhorn_AK]

Next up, gun confiscation for people who won’t get the vaccine.

 

[MattB]

I never once said that in any case, my stance on any thing is its an individual’s choice. period. whether quarintine, vaccination, abortion, etc. I don’t want my tax dollars going to abortion but if a mother feels that’s what she wants to do she has to live with that... I digress but the vaccine issue is all about choice to me, provide people with facts and let them choose and don’t penalize people one way or the other

Do you feel the same way about drunk driving? Or having unprotected sex when you have HIV and your partner is unaware? Or is there a point at which the societal good outweighs an individual's desire?

 

[MattB]

Next up, gun confiscation for people who won’t get the vaccine.

Nice non-sequitr. One has nothing to do with the other.

This site.....

 

[WRO]

Nice non-sequitr. One has nothing to do with the other.

This site.....

In our current ****** up world it might.

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[MattB]

In our current ****** up world it might.

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Not even in this world.