Ethics Archery Spinning Inserts

[jason HTX]

Anybody use spinning inserts?

Is it a gimmick or are their claims of "no need to broadhead tune" really accurate?

Is this basically the same concept as snyder core?

 

[Mighty Mouse]

Seems like a gimmick to me, but I'd be interested to hear from anyone who has actually shot them. The claims Ethics makes about their spinning inserts sound superficially plausible (increased arrow spin rate, improved speed retention, elimination of broadhead planing), but I'm skeptical about appreciable benefits in practice. I'd guess that the spin and speed increases would be negligible. Eliminating the need to tune broadheads is a big claim that I'd have to see to believe. Ethics makes vague references to tests, but they don't have any actual test data on their website.

The Snyder Core system is something completely different. It's a beefed-up broadhead mounting system for micro diameter arrows consisting of a hidden insert (HIT), an external collar, and a head with an elongated shank...no spinning components.

 

[Trial153]

Even if there is measurable performance benefits, which I doubt there is I wouldn’t trade it for the structural complexity needed for the insert to spin.
Some juice isn’t worth the squeeze

 

[Zac]

I've used them, durability is horrible as you would expect.

 

[wapitibob]

Same concept as the razorback 5 from 30 years ago but using the insert instead of a blade cartridge.

The tolerance stack on a standard shaft, insert, and broadhead is terrible, adding clearance for insert spin and I wouldn't touch it.

 

[Billy Goat]

How do you screw them in?

Is it like a halfout and you can hold the end?

I don't feel like looking them up.

 

[Mighty Mouse]

Is it like a halfout and you can hold the end?

Yes, it sticks out far enough in front of the shaft that you could grab it and hold it stationary while you screw in a point/head.