Esbit and MSR Reactor

[Aron Snyder]

[video=vimeo;68071844]https://vimeo.com/68071844[/video]

https://vimeo.com/68071844

 

[Ironman]

Haha! If you have ADD, do not.....wow, did you see that bird.....that is a cool looking tree! Classic!
The water will boil before you remember you were boiling water.

 

[cmeier117]

May need to look at that MSR stove some more. the jetboil zip is still going strong though.

 

[MattB]

One thing on those Esbits, using a light weight wind screen makes a huge difference in boil times. At ~7,000 ft. I can boil 16 oz. of water with 1 tab.

 

[Stinky Coyote]

The add thing was hilarious, good vid

 

[luke moffat]

Just burnt the bottom off our Jetboil TI Sumo after approx 10 BOILS, NOT 10 months extremely disappointed, great video Aron!!!

 

[Floorguy]

Just burnt the bottom off our Jetboil TI Sumo after approx 10 BOILS, NOT 10 months extremely disappointed, great video Aron!!!

So the @4 oz savings not worth the extra @$60?

 

[luke moffat]

NOT AT ALL!!!! Going aluminum as our old JB has lasted over 300 nights in the field and only a scorched cozy to show for it!!! Like the size and the only one boil of the Sumo but if the TIburns up that fast don't go that route!!!

 

[crazy_davey]

Used and Esbit stove many years ago to try and save some weight and finally swore I would never use one again(not many light stove options back then). Conditions needed to be perfect to get any sort of efficiency even with a wind screen. Might be my ADD . With the stove options out now it would be pretty tough to go back and use one unless I absolutely had no other options.

Had the first, bigger version of the MSR Reactor. A great stove but far too heavy for most trips. Went and checked out the new, smaller version at a local outdoor shop a few weeks back, still really like the design but still too heavy for me. For right now I will be sticking with the SOTO MR stove and windscreen, Evernew Ti pot with MSR lid. All my cooking stuff fits inside including stove and fuel canister and not much out there can beat it for weight.

 

[hammer0419]

Just picked up a Reactor 1.0 for $110 on ebay. Definately built tougher than my Jetboil Sol. Kind of like the cup just sitting on the burner. It is a bit bigger and heavier than my jetboil but I like it and looks like it will last much longer.

 

[Hunt'nFish]

So the @4 oz savings not worth the extra @$60?

I would concure. They need to fix that issue, but it may have more to do with metal physics than QC. But regardless, I'd expect better life than that. Making my $49 Alum Zip look more & more attractive.
Hunt'nFish

 

[luke moffat]

Used and Esbit stove many years ago to try and save some weight and finally swore I would never use one again(not many light stove options back then). Conditions needed to be perfect to get any sort of efficiency even with a wind screen. Might be my ADD . With the stove options out now it would be pretty tough to go back and use one unless I absolutely had no other options.

Had the first, bigger version of the MSR Reactor. A great stove but far too heavy for most trips. Went and checked out the new, smaller version at a local outdoor shop a few weeks back, still really like the design but still too heavy for me. For right now I will be sticking with the SOTO MR stove and windscreen, Evernew Ti pot with MSR lid. All my cooking stuff fits inside including stove and fuel canister and not much out there can beat it for weight.

Davey I agree. I really like the SOTO myself and my plan was to cut notches in the bottom of the TI Sumo Cup to use it with a SOTO stove like I had done with a cut down standard JB cup. I'll pick up a aluminum Sumo before I go to work and have one of the guys up there hack out the notches. My SOTO w/o the ignitor (I pull them off the the stove as they quit working) weighs in at 2.0 oz even so the aluminum Sumo/Soto combo will be only 2 oz more than its Ti counterpart and should hold up better. We'll see if what backcountry.com or jetboil themselves do about this 10 boil wonder pot that is the Sumo Ti.

 

[Yellowknife]

Davey I agree. I really like the SOTO myself and my plan was to cut notches in the bottom of the TI Sumo Cup to use it with a SOTO stove like I had done with a cut down standard JB cup. I'll pick up a aluminum Sumo before I go to work and have one of the guys up there hack out the notches.

Doesn't Jetboil make a 1.5L "pot" that can just sit on pretty much any stove? I've never used one, but I've seen them. Any reason why you wouldn't use that approach? Packability issues?

Yk

 

[luke moffat]

Doesn't Jetboil make a 1.5L "pot" that can just sit on pretty much any stove? I've never used one, but I've seen them. Any reason why you wouldn't use that approach? Packability issues?

Yk

Yeah I have one. Works great for use in the winter when I want to melt snow and what not, but it is bulky given its volume and the Sumo can hold a 230 gram canister, 2 bowls, fuel stand, and stove itself all inside of it much better than the JB pot. Atleast thats my preference.

 

[justin davis]

The MSR reactor does look good. Might have to check it out

 

[Yellowknife]

Yeah I have one. Works great for use in the winter when I want to melt snow and what not, but it is bulky given its volume and the Sumo can hold a 230 gram canister, 2 bowls, fuel stand, and stove itself all inside of it much better than the JB pot. Atleast thats my preference.

You notice any diff in efficiency between the wide and narrow JB pots? I get significantly faster boil times when I use a wider pot vs a tall narrow pot on a canister stove. At least for the SOTO for sure. I assume the HE fins on a JB cup would negate most or all of that wide pot advantage, but perhaps not.

YK

 

[luke moffat]

For melting snow I do for sure....for general water boil...well I haven't timed it and its not super significant....

 

[cmeier117]

I may have to upgrade to one of these.