ELD-X issues

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That resembles two 338 WM Hornady ELDX 230’s we took out of a moose back in September. Killed it just fine, but both hit ribs on entry and fragged between there and the off side hide, with minimal damage to exit rib and scapula. 60-70 yd broadside shots. Was able to bull grunt and stop the running bull. Glad we didn’t have to use the Texas heart shot with those. My first observation of those bullets on Ak game. 🇺🇸
 
Interesting experience with the ELDX a few weeks ago. Shot a bull headed away from me at 125 yards with a texas heart shot. Bullet penetrated from the taint to the base of the spine between the shoulders. Never found that bullet. Second shot from about 60 yards was head broadside , right in the crease. Bullet ended up under the hide on the far side with core separation. What was surprising to me was the lack of bloodshot meat. Bullets didn't hit any solid bone and minimal meat loss. 175gr .284 ELDX at 2800mv. Found bullet retained weight was 60gr. I would have liked more retained weight but I am very happy with the result and also the lack of meat loss on the "violent" bullet disruption. We went gutless with the quartering so really didn't get to check the full damage internally.
 
The only “consistent” performance that most care about is “killing quickly”. And ironically, in legitimate testing, by far they highest failure rates are from conventional monolithic bullets.
When you say conventional monos, does that include hammers, cutting edge, etc? I've only ever used the Barnes lineup, but animals do seem to travel further and the wound channel really seems to depend on what I hit. If I get a rib or shoulder on entry, it can be great, but if I miss ribs on entry it's a pretty narrow wound.

For the folks less concerned with time to incapacitation, I'm guessing you hunt wide open spaces like farm fields or sagebrush? Thick timber and reprod in the PNW is godawful for blood trailing, animals disappear fast after the first shot.
 
When you say conventional monos, does that include hammers, cutting edge, etc? I've only ever used the Barnes lineup, but animals do seem to travel further and the wound channel really seems to depend on what I hit. If I get a rib or shoulder on entry, it can be great, but if I miss ribs on entry it's a pretty narrow wound.

“Conventional monos”= Barnes TAX/TTSX/LRX, Hornady CX, etc. The fragmenting monos do better than conventional monos, but still not nearly the terminal effects of the best lead core bullets.


For the folks less concerned with time to incapacitation, I'm guessing you hunt wide open spaces like farm fields or sagebrush? Thick timber and reprod in the PNW is godawful for blood trailing, animals disappear fast after the first shot.

I hunt all over- from FL and AL swamps, to NE reprod and old growth, to the mountain west. In truly thick timber/brush I want the most destructive bullet I can get for the caliber, and put it through bone. The last thing I want is narrow wounding bullets.
 
I wish people would realize that you can be "pro" something without justifying it by being "anti" another. You can be pro monolithic bullets and not be anti cup and core. You can be pro magnum caliber without being anti small caliber. You can be pro mule without being anti horse. Like what you like and use what you like without claiming everything else sucks.
This is just un American!
 
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