Easton Injexions and their consistency... Video Clip !!!!

I have seen this happen first hand when testing arrows for straightness. It can and does happen. That's why I suggest taking a reading in front of the label to minimize any variables. Just because you didn't experience does not mean it doesn't occur.

What arrows ? Just curious, so I can test them to see and make a note of it when testing in the future. I tested last night the GT's, Easton's, Victory's, Carbon Express and Cheetah's, that I have on hand and had zero difference from label to bareshaft.

Thanks
Shane
 
I have the RAM Spine tester as well, and I test every arrow for Weight, Straightness at the back, middle, and front of the arrow, and I test the spine of every arrow before I build it. Its a long process but in the end there will be no excuses for a bad arrow.

The one thing I find is the inconsistences in the spine of some good quality arrows. I shoot GT Pro Ultra Lite 300 and the spine will very from .001 to .005 and a few have been a little higher than that. When I shot the Easton ACC they would come in at .001 and you may get one flier at .002 out of a dozen.

Thanks for doing the video, I mite look it the Easton's again.
 
What arrows ? Just curious, so I can test them to see and make a note of it when testing in the future. I tested last night the GT's, Easton's, Victory's, Carbon Express and Cheetah's, that I have on hand and had zero difference from label to bareshaft.

Thanks
Shane

I used to spend a lot of time sorting through dozens of shafts just to get a perfect dozen. I've seen it with Eastons, GT, CE, and PSE shafts. I learned early on that measuring on the label was a variable and to measure just on the bare shaft. I'd also measure it at 3 points to ensure it was straight along the whole length of the shaft.

Have the labels improved? Sure, but to assume that it isn't a variable while measuring is a little naive so why even introduce it into the process?
 
I used to spend a lot of time sorting through dozens of shafts just to get a perfect dozen. I've seen it with Eastons, GT, CE, and PSE shafts. I learned early on that measuring on the label was a variable and to measure just on the bare shaft. I'd also measure it at 3 points to ensure it was straight along the whole length of the shaft.

Have the labels improved? Sure, but to assume that it isn't a variable while measuring is a little naive so why even introduce it into the process?

LOL !

I have been spinning arrows on the RAM spine tester for roughly 7 to 8 years now and have never seen a variance in the labels to bareshaft. Now if there was a difference it was less than .001 so I am not quite sure why you are making this an issue.

So since it is naive, you don't bother testing arrows that have labeling or camo throughout the whole shaft ?

I have some Gold Tips that are over 20 years old that don't have a difference from label to bareshaft.
 
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LOL !

I have been spinning arrows on the RAM spine tester for roughly 7 to 8 years now and have never seen a variance in the labels to bareshaft. Now if there was a difference it was less than .001 so I am not quite sure why you are making this an issue.

So since it is naive, you don't bother testing arrows that have labeling or camo throughout the whole shaft ?

I have some Gold Tips that are over 20 years old that don't have a difference from label to bareshaft.

Ok there was not an issue until you tried to discredit my post which is based off of my personal experience. Just because it's not something you have experienced does not mean it can't or does not happen. Hence my suggestion to eliminate what could possibly be a variable while taking measurements which is pretty standard practice in any QC as well as taking random samples ie measuring at more than one spot along the shaft.
 
I have no dog in this fight , but I do know as machinist I would get fired I if I tested variances over the top of a label or any other sticker for that matter !! Just my opinion I guess !
 
Ok there was not an issue until you tried to discredit my post which is based off of my personal experience. Just because it's not something you have experienced does not mean it can't or does not happen. Hence my suggestion to eliminate what could possibly be a variable while taking measurements which is pretty standard practice in any QC as well as taking random samples ie measuring at more than one spot along the shaft.

Didn't I simply ask you what arrow you have seen this in so I can make a note in the future in my own testing. I have tested a wide range of arrows over the years and have not had the experience that you have with the label skewing the test results.

It's quite easy to test if there is a difference and if there is, simply don't test from that point. Out of all the arrows I have tested over the years, so far, there has been zero difference.

As far as testing from multiple points. I have found the weak side of the shaft to keep its consistency throughout the shaft when testing for spine consistency.

Have you tested the shafts with your RAM spine tester that have the entire length of the shaft labeled or carry graphics throughout the whole shaft ?
 
I never really post to forums, but I thought I would jump in here on the spine testing. (I designed and built the RAM carbon QC back in the day, so some of my info is dated and not fresh in the memory banks) I have found some arrows that showed perceived variation in straightness and spine in the label, it depends on the process used to print the label; for instance some of the early silk screens were .003-.005 high, especially if it overlapped where it came around the shaft. I would also see a bit of disturbance down the full length of the arrow on some of the old full camo carbon arrows where the camo wrap came together. However, I think the majority of arrow decoration is now done with dye sublimation and has negligible thickness. As far as spine consistency down the length of the arrow, that usually depends on the method of construction. An aluminum arrow will show a slight uniform spine high spot down the length correlating with the weld (unless the arrow was made by the process of drawing over mandrel or DOM, which I believe Eason went away from in the late 90's). You may see the same effect on aluminum carbon composites but it will be nearly too slight to measure. Carbon tech has a proprietary manufacturing method the yielded near perfect spine rotationally and axially. Wrapped carbon shafts such as gold tip used to show a marked spine high spot, that I attributed to where the edges of the pre-preg came together, but it seems to have gotten much better of the last ten years, to the point that I rarely spine check anymore unless I am setting up arrows for fixed blade broadheads, and even then I generally just build, shoot and rotate nocks until they all fall in an acceptable group, either by hand or with a hooter shooter.
 
Thanks for the info !
That probably explains why I don't see a difference from label/decoration when testing over the last 7-8 years with the RAM spine tester. Any variance I have found has been less than .001
 
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