Easiest learning curve scope?

[TaperPin]

I know it will definitely take some time for me to hit out to a mile.

On my thermal, I'm fairly comfortable hitting hog at 200 yards but I know that's absolutely night and day when hitting out to 500 let alone a mile.

I was thinking more on the lines of buy once cry once when I mentioned those scopes but now y'all have me thinking...

Personally, I’d get a 5/6 to 20/25 as a general purpose plinking/varmint/open country scope. Cranked down you’re good for big game hunting and cranked up you’ll be able to see the Coke can at 500 yards you and your buddies are taking bets on hitting.

 

[Texas7866]

Personally, I’d get a 5/6 to 20/25 as a general purpose plinking/varmint/open country scope. Cranked down you’re good for big game hunting and cranked up you’ll be able to see the Coke can at 500 yards you and your buddies are taking bets on hitting.

I already have dedicated hunting gun (6.5 Grendel with a Iray TL35V2 thermal). I use this for hog/deer.

The ace Target bolt will strictly be for bench shooting too far distances. In Dallas, I have access to ranges where you can hit up to a mile.

This is why I was thinking of the variable mag scopes.

 

[Stache Attack]

Nightforce nx8 4-32 then and be done or if you want go atacr

 

[RockAndSage]

I already have dedicated hunting gun (6.5 Grendel with a Iray TL35V2 thermal). I use this for hog/deer.

The ace Target bolt will strictly be for bench shooting too far distances. In Dallas, I have access to ranges where you can hit up to a mile.

This is why I was thinking of the variable mag scopes.

Ah - so this is more or less a dedicated bench-rest, learning type of gun?

 

[JohnJohnson]

OP for your purposes (just a range gun) you should probably be getting a Razor 6-36 out of those options you listed. I'll link a video below of a pretty neutral guy talking about how it stacks up against other high end optics. The spoiler is it's probably the best buy under $4,000.

I think people don't understand why the 6-36/7-35 scopes are so prevalent in PRS shooting. Most variable power optics have sweet spots within their magnification range where depth of field, field of view, resolution, contrast, etc are best. If you look at the survey data, the most commonly used magnification for most PRS shooters is in the range of 14-20 (link below). The 6-36 and 7-35 scopes just tend to have their optical sweet spots within that 14-20 magnification range whereas 4-20/5-25 scopes tend to have theirs a bit lower (Example: ATACR 5-25).

Best Scope Magnification for Long Range Shooting – What The Pros Use

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[Texas7866]

Ah - so this is more or less a dedicated bench-rest, learning type of gun?

I'm new to precision shooting but I have been hunting for quite some time out of a thermal anywhere between 50 to 200 yards.

Yes, this will be a dedicated bench/prone gun for target shooting out to long distances.

 

[RockAndSage]

I'm new to precision shooting but I have been hunting for quite some time out of a thermal anywhere between 50 to 200 yards.

Yes, this will be a dedicated bench/prone gun for target shooting out to long distances.

That helps. Best recommendation: get an SWFA, as they're known for durability and reliability on here, despite how cheap they are. That's a big deal - there are a lot of mid-tier and expensive scopes that won't track reliably, or will lose zero just taking a fall out of a rifle rack. You won't need primo glass at this stage. What you need is a lot of high-quality trigger time. So, take the savings, get a pile of ammo, and a couple of key accessories you need, like a good rear-bag, and then just shoot. Even better if you can take a class to give you a good foundation in the core skills and concepts. There should be plenty to choose from in the DFW area.

 

[grfox92]

SWFA fixed MQ -- pick your magnification.

This.

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[Texas7866]

OP for your purposes (just a range gun) you should probably be getting a Razor 6-36 out of those options you listed. I'll link a video below of a pretty neutral guy talking about how it stacks up against other high end optics. The spoiler is it's probably the best buy under $4,000.

I think people don't understand why the 6-36/7-35 scopes are so prevalent in PRS shooting. Most variable power optics have sweet spots within their magnification range where depth of field, field of view, resolution, contrast, etc are best. If you look at the survey data, the most commonly used magnification for most PRS shooters is in the range of 14-20 (link below). The 6-36 and 7-35 scopes just tend to have their optical sweet spots within that 14-20 magnification range whereas 4-20/5-25 scopes tend to have theirs a bit lower (Example: ATACR 5-25).

Best Scope Magnification for Long Range Shooting – What The Pros Use

What rifle scope magnification do you need to shoot long range? Choosing the best rifle scope magni...

precisionrifleblog.com

This is great, thank you for the link!

That helps. Best recommendation: get an SWFA, as they're known for durability and reliability on here, despite how cheap they are. That's a big deal - there are a lot of mid-tier and expensive scopes that won't track reliably, or will lose zero just taking a fall out of a rifle rack. You won't need primo glass at this stage. What you need is a lot of high-quality trigger time. So, take the savings, get a pile of ammo, and a couple of key accessories you need, like a good rear-bag, and then just shoot. Even better if you can take a class to give you a good foundation in the core skills and concepts. There should be plenty to choose from in the DFW area.

Thankfully, I always go with a premium firearms training group that are led by current LE and have almost 25 years as a SWAT snipers.

I'll be taking their 2 day precison rifle course when it becomes available.

 

[flyfisher117]

You don’t know what you don’t know.

Swfa scopes are inexpensive and reliable, and hold there value decent.

Buy one and put it on the gun and go shoot and learn some stuff.

After getting some experience, upgrade scopes and put the swfa on a backup gun or sell it for $100 loss

This. Heck you can even snag a used one and skip the $100 loss.
A few years ago I sold my last fixed 10x for about $50 less than I paid for it back in 2010-2011..

 

[JohnJohnson]

Thankfully, I always go with a premium firearms training group that are led by current LE and have almost 25 years as a SWAT snipers.

I'll be taking their 2 day precison rifle course when it becomes available.

Something to keep in mind is that the best long range shooters in the country are and have been civilian competition shooters for at least the last 30-40 years. Experience being a sniper should make absolutely no difference in what you're looking for with classes. Luckily the military snipers know this as well, so the Army Marksmanship Unit has made a massive push to get their guys shooting PRS and NRLH competitions to help them improve at shooting (which has worked extremely well).

I know Texas is a big state but if you are able to go attend a Rifles Only class, you should definitely look into that.

 

[Boltgun]

I want to get into running. What shoes should I buy? Oh, and I eventually want to run ultramarathons, so they will need to be good at that.


I’m exaggerating here, but trying to make a point. And don’t feel bad OP, we all were in your shoes at one time.

Buy some entry level gear, and plan on changing as your skills develop. You’ll constantly be changing and upgrading, so don’t worry about landing on the best right out of the gate. Even if you selected what I like best (NF) it may not be the best for you. And if you select best for you based on YouTube videos, it very likely will not be the best for you. Gotta just get out there and do it.

Try a SWFA 10x or 3-15x and you can sell it once you’ve taken the class and know what you prefer.

 

[Dave Thomas]

Nightforce atacr 7-35