E-scouting for public land bull elk

[big44a4]

Yeah sorry not my experience, glad you feel like that after your one elk trip. I see more and more folks wanting to get “back in” because of information like this. Don’t get me wrong it’s great info but sometimes I feel it does more harm then good. As someone in “elk country” that hunts multiple different seasons, being a backcountry billy bad ass is the new fad sorta like the keto diet

Spot on. Keto and going far.


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[plumber1969]

Yeah sorry not my experience, glad you feel like that after your one elk trip. I see more and more folks wanting to get “back in” because of information like this. Don’t get me wrong it’s great info but sometimes I feel it does more harm then good. As someone in “elk country” that hunts multiple different seasons, being a backcountry billy bad ass is the new fad sorta like the keto diet

I hunt alligators here in Florida. Been doing it a long time. It is not what you see on TV from Louisiana. In Florida, its a whole different set of rules, including not using rifles or baiting hooks. TV shows and Youtube does bring a lot of fad hunters out, but I consistently take alligators regardless of the pressure. That is what being a hunter is all about. At the end of it all, we need the hunters in the field otherwise we may be losing some large tracts of public land in our generation.

 

[Randy Newberg]

Part 2 - Edges and Canopy Disruptions. Live now at the link below.


[video=youtube_share;QaZLD5N5odo]https://youtu.be/QaZLD5N5odo[/video]

 

[Gobbler36]

I hunt alligators here in Florida. Been doing it a long time. It is not what you see on TV from Louisiana. In Florida, its a whole different set of rules, including not using rifles or baiting hooks. TV shows and Youtube does bring a lot of fad hunters out, but I consistently take alligators regardless of the pressure. That is what being a hunter is all about. At the end of it all, we need the hunters in the field otherwise we may be losing some large tracts of public land in our generation.

I do agree that it brings out fad hunters and those will come and go but I disagree with the whole Hunter recruitment idea I’m sorry I don’t buy into this fear mongering that this industry tries to portray that hunting is going away. I’m sorry I just don’t see it, way way to many people at trailheads around here for me to believe that we are losing hunters at a rapid pace, and I just don’t see public land going away at the extent that so many say it’s going to. I’ve always said instead of asking for more hunters to come out in the field how about everyone that already hunts become more involved than just buying your license and calling it good. I know I could do a lot more volunteering than I currently do

 

[kingfisher]

There are ways for hunters to sustain fruitful hunting, and grow the numbers of hunters at the same time. If your into getting in deep, and feel that there are more and more hunters, get involved in advocating for road closures, roadless areas and wilderness. Get involved with RMEF, MDF, and improve habitat and advocacy. The truth is, that the percentage of hunters in this country are going down. I went to a hip city in WA last weekend, and it was down-right scary how disconnected most city dwellers are from rural living. Trust me, there will be increased pressures from anti-hunters. There are now more people living in cities than in the country, and those numbers are increasing. They are understandably disconnected, and will continue to be. If we don't have advocates and voters, our hunting liberties and heritage will slip. Oh.. and Randy- Thanks Brother.

 

[Brendan]

I do agree that it brings out fad hunters and those will come and go but I disagree with the whole Hunter recruitment idea I’m sorry I don’t buy into this fear mongering that this industry tries to portray that hunting is going away. I’m sorry I just don’t see it, way way to many people at trailheads around here for me to believe that we are losing hunters at a rapid pace, and I just don’t see public land going away at the extent that so many say it’s going to. I’ve always said instead of asking for more hunters to come out in the field how about everyone that already hunts become more involved than just buying your license and calling it good. I know I could do a lot more volunteering than I currently do

A couple things - the hunters going away, are more the traditional "deer camp" hunters and eastern hunters. So while Western hunting is booming, hunter numbers overall are down as baby boomers stop hunting and you get fewer young people getting into it. So you don't see it at Western trail heads, but we very well could and probably will see it in terms of overall numbers and Pittman Robertson funding down the line. That's the argument for pushing hunter recruitment (Other than all of these western hunting businesses having a stake in the game - which is part of it too...)

I will disagree with you on Public Land, it's not like we're going to make more of it over time. While we may pick up a property here or there, the trend will be less land, more roads, more access which makes it tougher and tougher for hunters and wild animals - game and non-game. There was an interesting Meateater podcast recently on outdoor recreation impact, non-hunting, on Elk populations in areas of Colorado. I'm 100% in with groups like BHA because it's among the most "strict" view on preserving public land, habitat for animals, and access for hunters.

Agree with you on the volunteering aspect. I'm doing more myself locally.

 

[Danimal]

I do agree that it brings out fad hunters and those will come and go but I disagree with the whole Hunter recruitment idea I’m sorry I don’t buy into this fear mongering that this industry tries to portray that hunting is going away. I’m sorry I just don’t see it, way way to many people at trailheads around here for me to believe that we are losing hunters at a rapid pace, and I just don’t see public land going away at the extent that so many say it’s going to. I’ve always said instead of asking for more hunters to come out in the field how about everyone that already hunts become more involved than just buying your license and calling it good. I know I could do a lot more volunteering than I currently do

Adam,

It's a tricky situation. The numbers just aren't that straight forward. Total amount of hunters is actually going up. Hunters as a percentage of the population is going way down. Hunters are also migrating to different types of endeavors. Virtually gone is the guy who buys a license and hunts small game near the town where he now lives. The locally sourced, clean meat movement is putting more pressure on large game. I also live in Florida and hunt gators regularly. Tags are getting harder and harder to draw each year, pressure is increasing yearly, and gators just aren't cute and cuddly so it makes it easier for "fringe" outdoors people to feel good about killing a big ugly gator similar to how wild hog hunting has become almost the gateway hunt for "fringe" people. It sucks when you're areas or spots are feeling that pinch but in the long run guys like you will adapt and overcome. I agree, we can all do more and it starts with joining organizations like DU, Delta, RMEF, NWTF, etc. No matter how much you might disagree with some of their specific policies the majority of the work done by these well established sportsman bases organizations is net positive for both hunters and wildlife.

 

[ramont]

...I will disagree with you on Public Land, it's not like we're going to make more of it over time. While we may pick up a property here or there, the trend will be less land, more roads,...

You've learned you false leftist mantra well.

I suspect that most of you are basing what you think is fact on Internet prattle rather than facts.

 

[Brendan]

You've learned you false leftist mantra well.

I suspect that most of you are basing what you think is fact on Internet prattle rather than facts.

No - I just don't bury my head in the sand and keep parroting back the same far-right mantra even if it doesn't make a damn bit of sense. Even though I'm traditionally conservative, I vote and put my effort behind what matters to me, regardless of the party that supports it. You should try it sometime.

 

[Randy Newberg]

Part 3 - Probably more discussion on burns than you care to listen to.

[video=youtube_share;CxQduV2-woY]https://youtu.be/CxQduV2-woY[/video]

 

[Randy Newberg]

Part 4 - Sanctuaries is now live. Main focus of my plan for post-rut and late season.

[video=youtube_share;D2NnSXxB9DU]https://youtu.be/D2NnSXxB9DU[/video]

 

[LaHunter]

Thanks Randy. Great info

 

[GPool1842]

Love this series! I binged your whole channel last night!

 

[semperfidelis97]

Great stuff Randy.

 

[Randy Newberg]

Part 5 - Hunting Pressure, is now live on our YouTube channel. If you hunt public land in areas with large amounts of hunters, being able to predict hunting pressure, where it will come from and how elk will respond, is a big part of putting together your game plan.

[video=youtube_share;eRwuSb_gang]https://youtu.be/eRwuSb_gang[/video]

 

[Randy Newberg]

Oops, looks like I missed posting last week while traveling to AK for Sitka Blacktails.

Part 6 - Hunting Boundaries and Using Boundaries as a Sanctuary.

Probably the most effective sanctuary areas I hunt are boundaries. Requires a certain level of acceptance that many encounters will be off limits. But, the hunting pressure is usually far lower.

Thanks for watching.

[video=youtube_share;s2HoNU7r1ls]https://youtu.be/s2HoNU7r1ls[/video]

 

[Randy Newberg]

Part 7 - Now we are getting into the good stuff. To me, the next two videos are the most important of the entire series. This is the video that explains the four primary needs elk have; food, water, sanctuary, and breeding.

That sounds rather fundamental because it is. Yet, most times people fail to find elk is due to not understanding what of those four needs is the primary need. Identify the primary need and where you can satisfy that primary need, and you have identified where you will find the elk at the time you are hunting them.

[video=youtube_share;_MWdBtaAlA4]https://youtu.be/_MWdBtaAlA4[/video]

 

[DenverCountryBoy]

... the four primary needs elk have; food, water, sanctuary, and breeding.

That sounds rather fundamental because it is.

Fundamental?!? Hell, that sounds familiar.

 

[Randy Newberg]

Hunting Sitka Blacktails and Dall sheep the last three weeks has me a bit behind on the E-scouting series.

Part 8 - The 5 Periods of the Elk Season is now live. When combined with Part 7, needs, makes up the core of how I do my planning.

[video=youtube_share;9gNs9b9l6g0]https://youtu.be/9gNs9b9l6g0[/video]

 

[geebee]

Randy,

I personally really appreciate the information you provide us but I give you no sympathy here!!

Hunting Sitka Blacktails and Dall sheep the last three weeks has me a bit behind on the E-scouting series.

Part 8 - The 5 Periods of the Elk Season is now live. When combined with Part 7, needs, makes up the core of how I do my planning.
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