Door Knocking?

[Mojave]

I have done it. But I am kind of over it now.

I don't ask for permission and we don't give permission on our own lands.

Had a lot of problems with my family giving permission on leases I was on.

I had a lease with my father, and we were sitting there at the gate and a dad with 4 12-16 year old girls asked my dad if they could hunt and he told them yes. They shot 4 deer out of there before they left.

Another time on the same hunting lease, my father, who invited my uncle and my uncle invited his 5 grandsons. Then they showed up next year without asking. The first year I got away with it. The 2nd time the rancher caught us and I forfitted the lease without getting my money back.

We used to own a timeshare in Orlando at Disney, my %X$*ing sister tried the same shit.

 

[Mish-pop]

I have done it plenty of times and will still continue to do. I have only ever asked for waterfowl in my home state and a good share of the time it is a yes. Often the farmers that say yes have a few rules and I make sure to adhere to them strictly. After I get to know the farmer I do bring up deer somehow in a conversation just to inquire about what they see for deer in the area, if they hunt, etc... Everytime before I would get the chance to ask they say either they do or they have family or friends that hunt. Deer hunting is definitely more locked up where I'm at.

 

[grfox92]

It was the only way to get permission in Suburban New York and Connecticut where I grew up bowhunting. We would sometimes knock on over 100 doors in a weekend and get zero permission. But we kept doing it, and scored some great spots that way.

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[DawnPatrol]

I have done it in Oregon. My ratio is about 20 nos to 1 yes. But it got me a cow elk one year, so all worthwhile.

It can be a little hard to keep believing in it, but if you do it enough, it pays off eventually. Kind of like hunting.

 

[Andrew12gauge]

I’ve done it with mixed success. It’s weird, I had one property I wanted to get on for deer, but you always hear the “ask for less and build relationship strategy” so I took my kids(8&6 at the time) down to ask for permission to hunt squirrel and rabbit, old man comes to the door and about the minute I opened my mouth he just gave me a flat no. Another time asking for duck hunting permission I was told “we don’t allow the murder of animals on our property” kinda ironic it was a cattle ranch . I have found the easiest hunt to get permission for is archery antelope, people usually just laugh and tell me good luck.


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[KenLee]

The trouble with trading work with access is getting fair exchange of value. Often a full days work is worth a couple of hours hunting at the end of the day....apparently.

Depends on how good the hunting is. I can think of many farms that I'd make that deal 10x a year

 

[KenLee]

Care to elaborate? More research, more work after asking, more gifts? I'd love to hear a tried and true method.

You have to do whatever it takes to convince them that you are different from the other 5 or more people they let hunt who screwed them over. Cause unless the owner just bought the land, it has happened. People suck.

 

[TSAMP]

Care to elaborate? More research, more work after asking, more gifts? I'd love to hear a tried and true Method

Complex system. I'd venture to guess 60% will say flat NO, regardless how charming you are. Another 20-30% will say no because of you or the way you asked.

Some guys are so pushy and dont even know it. I met a fishing guide on the Canada border a couple weeks ago in our campground. After some passing conversation and talking about gundogs he gave me some crappie spots to try. (I was the only idiot with a camo welded boat up there) afterwards he saw my plates and we chatted about deer, I offered up some public tips, which he declined and asked about private. I said well I have some and I deer hunt, if it worked out that we're both hunting while he's in town I'd be happy to let him join. That wasn't enough he wanted a season long lease and asked repeatedly. After multiple no responses he said I had to know somebody else who had ground that would be and I just said that ships sailed.

 

[KenLee]

Complex system. I'd venture to guess 60% will say flat NO, regardless how charming you are. Another 20-30% will say no because of you or the way you asked.

Some guys are so pushy and dont even know it. I met a fishing guide on the Canada border a couple weeks ago in our campground. After some passing conversation and talking about gundogs he gave me some crappie spots to try. (I was the only idiot with a camo welded boat up there) afterwards he saw my plates and we chatted about deer, I offered up some public tips, which he declined and asked about private. I said well I have some and I deer hunt, if it worked out that we're both hunting while he's in town I'd be happy to let him join. That wasn't enough he wanted a season long lease and asked repeatedly. After multiple no responses he said I had to know somebody else who had ground that would be and I just said that ships sailed.

I now have a standard response for people who are that pushy. "$20k per acre and you must buy the entire parcel, because I'm not hunting anywhere near you."
Shuts em up quickly.

 

[Fowl Play]

I have been successful in the past. Currently have a few owners houses I drive by regularly just trying to catch them in their yard to ask them. House is setback about a 1/4 mile from the road with an open gate leading to the driveway. Just kinda feels weird driving that far in on their property and knocking on their door...