Done with kuiu

[twunt]

This canadian just made his last kuiu order. So have an 1850 icon pro as a day pack for elk, picked up a ultra bag on the 30% off sale. Well get it today and there is a duty charge in excess of the 30% saved. Not to mention the unfavorable exchange rate (new full well going in though)

I recall Jason mentioned over a year he was working on the duty/import thing for us Canadians. Guess that was just pulling our d***ks. To bad the northern market is too small to care about.

I do have multiple other pieces of kuiu gear and love them. But not worth it anymore for me.

Rant out. Flame away.

 

[colonel00]

That is unfortunate. Admitting my ignorance, how are the duty charges handled by other companies here in the US when shipping to Canada? If it is an import duty, doesn't it apply to anything you order from the US? Purely as an example, if you ordered from Kifaru, would you be in the same situation? I'm not defending KUIU in any way, just trying to understand the system and how a company could be "working on the duty/import thing" as you phrase it.

 

[Ramcam]

This canadian just made his last kuiu order. So have an 1850 icon pro as a day pack for elk, picked up a ultra bag on the 30% off sale. Well get it today and there is a duty charge in excess of the 30% saved. Not to mention the unfavorable exchange rate (new full well going in though)

I recall Jason mentioned over a year he was working on the duty/import thing for us Canadians. Guess that was just pulling our d***ks. To bad the northern market is too small to care about.




I do have multiple other pieces of kuiu gear and love them. But not worth it anymore for me.

Rant out. Flame away.

Thats a shame i have my Kuiu stuff shipped to a us mail service near the border(Ship Happens) then walk across and pick it up.Bought a bunch of stuff during the sale all i payed was tax no duty.How far from the border are you?

 

[goatboy]

That is unfortunate. Admitting my ignorance, how are the duty charges handled by other companies here in the US when shipping to Canada? If it is an import duty, doesn't it apply to anything you order from the US? Purely as an example, if you ordered from Kifaru, would you be in the same situation? I'm not defending KUIU in any way, just trying to understand the system and how a company could be "working on the duty/import thing" as you phrase it.

Items not made in North America are hit with a 18% duty, add 12% sales tax depending on which province you live in. It's the same for any item made over seas then imported from the states, early orders from Kuiu were not caught by customs but they clued in pretty quickly. Kifaru is made in the US and under NAFTA articles made in North America aren't subject to duty charges, we do however get charged sales tax upon delivery.

 

[colonel00]

Items not made in North America are hit with a 18% duty, add 12% sales tax depending on which province you live in. It's the same for any item made over seas then imported from the states, early orders from Kuiu were not caught by customs but they clued in pretty quickly. Kifaru is made in the US and under NAFTA articles made in North America aren't subject to duty charges, we do however get charged sales tax upon delivery.

Gotcha. Thanks for the explanation. Would it be the same if KUIU had a distribution center in Canada? Perhaps the duty would be already included in a higher priced item from a .ca web store?

 

[goatboy]

No the duty would be exempt if imported directly from manufacturer.

 

[Markdjr]

Find a friend on here to purchase in the US then mail to you.

 

[Where's Bruce?]

Items not made in North America are hit with a 18% duty, add 12% sales tax depending on which province you live in. It's the same for any item made over seas then imported from the states, early orders from Kuiu were not caught by customs but they clued in pretty quickly. Kifaru is made in the US and under NAFTA articles made in North America aren't subject to duty charges, we do however get charged sales tax upon delivery.

You are 100% correct. There is nothing Jason could do to subjugate "the duty/import thing" even if he wanted to. His products are manufactured in China and subject to all Canadian tariffs.

 

[colonel00]

Well, if they had a distribution center in Canada, they would absorb those duties (as I understand it now) and the customer would just be paying the tax. However, that would be an awfully empty distribution center most of the time... (sorry, had to poke a little fun)

 

[Kevin Dill]

Somehow this thread reminds me of another one I recently saw. A guy was thoroughly pissed-off at Cabela's for not selling him a gun due to a technicality with his address. Cabela's was following the letter of the law regarding firearms sales in this case, and had no option to ignore it. The guy got angry and f-bombed the sales guy, then swore he'd never buy another thing from Cabela's....all because they wouldn't work around the law and see it his way. The problem there...and in this thread...is not caused by the manufacturer or seller. It's a result of governments imposing laws and policies which some disagree with. A company follows the law as required and then a customer unfairly blames them when he should really be directing the venom at his own government. It's akin to kicking your dog for something the kids made him do.

 

[American Grouch]

Somehow this thread reminds me of another one I recently saw. A guy was thoroughly pissed-off at Cabela's for not selling him a gun due to a technicality with his address. Cabela's was following the letter of the law regarding firearms sales in this case, and had no option to ignore it. The guy got angry and f-bombed the sales guy, then swore he'd never buy another thing from Cabela's....all because they wouldn't work around the law and see it his way. The problem there...and in this thread...is not caused by the manufacturer or seller. It's a result of governments imposing laws and policies which some disagree with. A company follows the law as required and then a customer unfairly blames them when he should really be directing the venom at his own government. It's akin to kicking your dog for something the kids made him do.

Amen.

 

[Obi-wanshinobi]

All Canadians should be well aware of the potential extra duty/tax costs when ordering from the U.S. unless it's Made in U.S.A. product. Sometimes you may have a package get through unchecked but you should always factor the duties/taxes in before you decide if it's worth it to you.

 

[LJ Buck]

Should of purchased all the kuiu you could buy when it was made in Canada

 

[sr80]

Nothing new here.

 

[BroodBuster]

I've got a buddy who lives in Toronto. I always know when he's going to be in town when packages start arriving at my doorstep. For someone without an Amazon account I sure do get a lot of packages from them

 

[Manosteel]

All Canadians should be well aware of the potential extra duty/tax costs when ordering from the U.S. unless it's Made in U.S.A. product. Sometimes you may have a package get through unchecked but you should always factor the duties/taxes in before you decide if it's worth it to you.

I think this is the point of the OP, it's not worth it to buy Kuiu when you get hammered by shipping/handling and duty charges. If kuiu cared enough about its Canadian consumer they could open a distribution center in Canada, a lot of companies do this. But considering their spotty treatment of customers I wouldn't hold my breath.

And some companies are really good to work with when it comes to shipping their products to Canadians to help minimize costs and others are not, easy to guess which companies those are because their reputations for customer service is top notch.

 

[Ramshead]

Who was your shipper? I refuse to use UPS or FedEx because of their high costs and brokerage fees. USPS has been great, and most of my purchases sail thru Canada Post without surcharges. It helps that some of the cottage manufacturers I have bought from (who I won't name), put a reduced value on the customs declaration.

 

[jmez]

I'm sure they would be perfectly fine opening a distribution center if it would be profitable to do so.

 

[Obi-wanshinobi]

I think this is the point of the OP, it's not worth it to buy Kuiu when you get hammered by shipping/handling and duty charges. If kuiu cared enough about its Canadian consumer they could open a distribution center in Canada, a lot of companies do this. But considering their spotty treatment of customers I wouldn't hold my breath.

And some companies are really good to work with when it comes to shipping their products to Canadians to help minimize costs and others are not, easy to guess which companies those are because their reputations for customer service is top notch.

I agree. Care to let us Canadians know which company to order a pair of Sitka Timberlines from without paying duties???
I'm not paying Grouse River prices for Sitka

 

[Kevin Dill]

What is the percentage of duty/import tax on something like retail clothing shipped to Canada? Say a guy buys a $100 sweater from the US and has it shipped to BC or Alberta....how much duty on it? Does the % rate remain the same as price increases?