dog problem

[Jesse Jaymes]

If you're in Stevens County, I think you can shoot it. I can find out 1st hand for you.

But to all the Dog Shooters......you better have your shit(and your dog) wired tight. If you shot my dog, you bet your ass I'm gonna shoot yours 1 foot inside my property line.

But I wouldn't be an asshole, given the head's up of the 1st phone call or face to face. I value my dog too much. It would be "I'm very sorry...and I will do my utmost to not let this happen again"

 

[Warren1726]

When I was a kid, like 10-11, I was out in our backyard splitting firewood. A chow-pit mix looking thing came from around the woodpile and attacked me. It grabbed my by the arm and shook me. My super/hunting dog, a pointer/German sherherd/boxer mix came out of know where and stomped a mud hole in its ass. If he hadn't been there it would have been bad for me. When I was younger my dad had told neighbors about their dogs coming on our farm fight each other and our dogs. It didn't stop, so I remember these dogs fighting in the middle of the night in our front yard and him going out there in his tighty-whiteys with the Mossberg and some #7 shot, one dog was killed. The next morning he drove it to the neighbors down the road and told them what happened. They were unhappy but he had warned them and told the sheriff so....

 

[ethan]

I'd make an anonymous call to the neighbors first. If that didn't work I'd practice the SSS rule, hence the "anonymous".

If it's a pit....I'd smoke it's ass first chance I got. Call me "uneducated", or look up the stats on dog attacks. Pits are number one with something like 60% (there abouts) rotweilers are second with something like 12%. What does that tell ya?

 

[realunlucky]

X2 sss. This is the government deals with problems when they want to avoid extra drama. Works until someone forgets the most important S and airs the secret out then get ready for the repercussions right or wrong

 

[JCT]

The farm I live on has several individual houses on both sides of the dirt road coming into it. I'm the last one in before the farm owners. (we all own our lots),
Next place before me, lady passes away. Year or so later, new folks move in. Lots of critters, (everyone here has horses except me). Wasn't long I started losing chickens. I have a dog and love dogs very much. Really didn't put it together until snow fall that it was the new folks beagle doing them in.
That joker had to do a good bit of traveling to get to my birds but he must've had a taste for yard bird bad. Anyhow long story short, told the owners what I thought but that I couldn't prove it. The wife came to my house the next day offered to pay for however many birds I lost and told me she had no idea and she would take care of it and would never happen again. Guess what? It has never happened again and we're good neighbors.
Worth a try.
I love my dog! Would I save her in a burning building before a person ? Probably not, BUT, I would have to think about it.
If a neighbor shot my dog without giving me the benefit of doubt and a chance to remedy the situation I must say that my first reaction wouldn't
be to play nice. Sounds to me that the problem dog in this situation is constantly loose which cannot be unknown to the owners but maybe they think it's harmless.
I don't, you don't, but maybe they're ignorant to what he's up to while he's gone. I say let them know and go from there. The dog is doing his thing, hunting,
chasing critters just like we do and want to be doing everyday but rules,seasons and laws keep us leashed just as that dogs owners should keep him leashed.
Give the dog a chance and the owners a chance.
If that doesn't work then take care of it quietly. My simple opinion.
Regards
JT

 

[GFY]

I would take care of the problem myself and no one would ever know. That is unacceptable behavior and will only continue. If it is a big enough problem that you are seeking advise on the web, the. I would say it is time to make the problem go away.

I love dogs and have owned many over the years but will not put up with a deer chasing dog. I have got rid of several of my own and a few others when needed.

 

[Moose2367]

It's tough, I love dogs too, but also have shot a crap load of them here in Australia, wild dogs and dingoes. We had a pack of 6 here a while ago, they're down to 4 now after a successful morning whistling them in.

The catch 22 with your situation is, let them know and it keeps doing, so you shoot it, they know who did it. You let them know and they stop it happening all good. Or you just deal with it without letting them know.

Which is the best way for your situation is your choice, but something needs to be done.

 

[1hoda]

Take the high road and talk to the neighbor first. That's what being neighborly is all about. If that doesn't solve it, you can have a clean conscience when you call the game warden. They might not like you much, but you will have handled it the right way. If they fault you they aren't reasonable people anyway.

I'm a geezer and not up on forum lingo- what in the world is SSS?

 

[Shrek]

Shoot , shovel , shut up.

 

[Mike7]

We had problems with some neighbor dogs running everywhere in the neighborhood, but they hadn't been in our yard. Some people had complained once or twice to the local animal control about them running lose apparently, but nothing happened other than warnings. One day as I was getting home from work, they killed one of our chickens and injured another right in front of my kids. I got there on the tail end of things, so didn't have to or wasn't able to shoot the dogs, but I followed the dogs right back to their owner's house and got the address. My wife called the animal control, and they came out and did an interview while my daughter cried over a pile of feathers. The animal control officer went over to the house where the dogs were back in the yard (one with blood and feathers around his mouth) of the owners and told them that they would be fined and the dogs would be confiscated and put to sleep if they were caught out again. We have never seen them out again.

On the other hand, we have lost one of our own chickens from our bird dogs when the kids let the dogs out into the yard accidentally...we would have lost more, but the older more experienced dog just stayed on point while the chickens played dead, waiting for me to give him the command to fetch. I had to tell him "whoa, good boy" and come pick him up off point and carry him away while he ignored the kids screaming at him.

All of my dogs have gotten electric shock collar deer training as a puppy though. It only takes once or twice and saves not only the deer but also the dog in the long run. In the winter, I have just driven around town at night until I find some deer, and let the dog go. Once the pup gets chasing, I just start laying on the shocks. The dogs are initially so amped up that it takes quite a good shock to dissuade them, but it only takes one reminder outing and they get it for good it seems. So far they have learned that all ungulates are off limits for hunting, with just 1-2 deer training lessons between 6 and 12 mos old.

Also anecdotally, most of the dog bites (numbers, not severity) that I have seen have been Chows and Siberian Husky mix dogs (most of these are not reported though as they are generally relatively minor bites when the family dog snaps at a child).

 

[husky390]

Back when I was a kid in the good ol day's that dog would be feeding worms, we wouldn't be having this conversation and life would continue on without batting an eye. But that's farm life for you.

 

[tipsntails7]

First I would urge someone to delete this thread, I've seen this exact thing on other forums an it turns into an absolute shit show.

Second, I have a hard time punishing people for things they don't do, the dog is not at fault the owner is. I'm not going to roll a dog because their owner is trash. Also at least give the owner a heads up.
Does your neighbor not have a fence? Do you not have a fence?

Also would you have this exact same reaction to a golden retriever doing the same thing. I'm guessing not, since you felt the need to be specific about the type of breed.

I will say it's not a good idea to shoot the dog. It's actually a terrible idea frankly. In a country where a man can be sent to jail for shooting an intruder in his home more then likely you will face some type of legal issue.

Lastly the amount of people on this thread that have told you to shoot it is disgusting. It's a dog running deer, he's not attacking a school bus full of children. Maybe the guy goes to work puts his dog out but doesn't know he's got a hole in his fence line. Go talk to the owner and go from there.

Don't be a coward like some on here clearly are and shoot first and sort the rest later. Once the trigger is pulled it cannot be undone.

 

[tipsntails7]

I absolutely love dogs, only a handful of people I'd rather spend more time with than my black lab. If I lived in an area like you are describing and had a neighbor with dogs that are behaving the way you've described, I wouldn't even talk to the neighbor, because it's unlikely to change the behavior of the dogs, and I'm just going to end up shooting the dogs and then the neighbors suspicion falls on me and creates hard feelings. Like Shrek said, SSS and be done with it.

You sir need to look yourself in the mirror more often....

 

[idig4au]

Yeah I hope this thread gets deleted too.

There are some real heartless tough guy comments here. Disturbing

 

[wawhitey]

First I would urge someone to delete this thread, I've seen this exact thing on other forums an it turns into an absolute shit show.

Second, I have a hard time punishing people for things they don't do, the dog is not at fault the owner is. I'm not going to roll a dog because their owner is trash. Also at least give the owner a heads up.
Does your neighbor not have a fence? Do you not have a fence?

Also would you have this exact same reaction to a golden retriever doing the same thing. I'm guessing not, since you felt the need to be specific about the type of breed.

I will say it's not a good idea to shoot the dog. It's actually a terrible idea frankly. In a country where a man can be sent to jail for shooting an intruder in his home more then likely you will face some type of legal issue.

Lastly the amount of people on this thread that have told you to shoot it is disgusting. It's a dog running deer, he's not attacking a school bus full of children. Maybe the guy goes to work puts his dog out but doesn't know he's got a hole in his fence line. Go talk to the owner and go from there.

Don't be a coward like some on here clearly are and shoot first and sort the rest later. Once the trigger is pulled it cannot be undone.

Yes i would have the exact same problem if it were a gilden retriever or even a damn pekingese. Im not afraid of the dog, hell i ran the thing off and it screamed like a bitch when i chased it. I mention the breed i guess because i tend to pigeonhole pitbull owners as trashy people. Make of that what you will but in my experience it is usually the case. And no i do not gave a fence yet. This us 20 acres at 2400 feet elevation that i bought in the winter recently so no chance to fence it off yet. But the fact that you ask that question, as if its my responsibility to prevent somebodys dog from coming on my property is ridiculous. It is THEIR dog and THEIR obligation to contain it. I shouldnt have to erect the great wall of china to keep dogs from running amok on my property. The people who ddcide to have dogs are responsible for controlling them.

 

[tipsntails7]

Yes i would have the exact same problem if it were a gilden retriever or even a damn pekingese. Im not afraid of the dog, hell i ran the thing off and it screamed like a bitch when i chased it. I mention the breed i guess because i tend to pigeonhole pitbull owners as trashy people. Make of that what you will but in my experience it is usually the case. And no i do not gave a fence yet. This us 20 acres at 2400 feet elevation that i bought in the winter recently so no chance to fence it off yet. But the fact that you ask that question, as if its my responsibility to prevent somebodys dog from coming on my property is ridiculous. It is THEIR dog and THEIR obligation to contain it. I shouldnt have to erect the great wall of china to keep dogs from running amok on my property. The people who ddcide to have dogs are responsible for controlling them.

I completely agree and never said you were afraid of it. I also agree that it is not your responsibility, it was just a question, more to find out if the dog is jumping fences and such or if it's free roaming.

I make the statement about the golden retriever based on people wanting to shoot the dog. People would be far less likely to shoot a dog of that type then a power breed dog, that's all.

 

[wawhitey]

I completely agree and never said you were afraid of it. I also agree that it is not your responsibility, it was just a question, more to find out if the dog is jumping fences and such or if it's free roaming.

I make the statement about the golden retriever based on people wanting to shoot the dog. People would be far less likely to shoot a dog of that type then a power breed dog, that's all.

Well if i did end up shooting it, which ive stated would be an absolute last resort, the breed wouldnt figure into the decision. I was hoping to get some sort of idea from this thread that i hadnt thought of to deter the dog but there apparently isnt some magic solution i havent thought of. So ive made up my mind. Step 1 talk to the owner and try to get them to contain their dog. If that doesnt work ill call the game warden and show him all my pictures and ask him to step in. If he cant solve the problem ill trap the bastard and take him to an animal shelter a few counties over where the owners wont find him. Just dont want a dead pet on my hands. Pretty sure it would eat at me for some time.

 

[tipsntails7]

Well if i did end up shooting it, which ive stated would be an absolute last resort, the breed wouldnt figure into the decision. I was hoping to get some sort of idea from this thread that i hadnt thought of to deter the dog but there apparently isnt some magic solution i havent thought of. So ive made up my mind. Step 1 talk to the owner and try to get them to contain their dog. If that doesnt work ill call the game warden and show him all my pictures and ask him to step in. If he cant solve the problem ill trap the bastard and take him to an animal shelter a few counties over where the owners wont find him. Just dont want a dead pet on my hands. Pretty sure it would eat at me for some time.

Or don't say anything, build a fence, let the dog chase all the deer into your property. Then shoot all the big bucks in the area. . It could be the safe haven for all the deer.

In all seriousness good luck and hopefully it ends with a talk to the owner.

 

[nflesher]

Go talk to the owner. If anyone has a right to be biased, I would say I do. I damn near lost my life to a dog when I was 8 years old. It was the neighbors pit/boxer mix going after my throat. I kicked at it with everything I had when it was on top of me and it settled for ripping my leg apart. I could see my bones in there it was so bad. Around 80 stitches later, I was laid up in the house for a month. Go talk to the owner because they might not even know it's happening, but I urge you to use caution if you have kids because you never know what a dog will do. I still have the scars to prove it!

 

[Clinch]

Not sure where you are or what the laws are but shooting a dog in defense of livestock is one thing, and I would not hesitate to shoot a dog the first time it showed on my property and harassed my animals. Shooting it in defense of wild game is another, and I'm not sure you have the authority to do that. I don't know if you are covered by county or municipal law enforcement, but either way they should have animal control, and some sort of "dog at large" law or ordinance. Start reporting every instance and show them the pics of the dog off your cam. Paper trail is your friend. Whether you decide to speak to the owners first is up to you. It may take a while to get the problem under control, but it is better than the possibility of criminal charges for killing a dog you didn't have the right to.