Disappointment and Frustration

[ohhiitznik]

I think you should try a set of regular stays. It might push the pack into your lumbar more so you won't get as much slippage

 

[Brandon Pattison]

These are regular.

 

[Brandon Pattison]

Bellybutton

 

[Shrek]

The Center of the buckle should be over your belly button. The center of your pack belt should be much higher than your natural pants waist. The center of the webbing of the belt should cup the top point of your hip bone. The pack is hung on the top of your hip bone .

 

[Brandon Pattison]

The Center of the buckle should be over your belly button. The center of your pack belt should be much higher than your natural pants waist. The center of the webbing of the belt should cup the top point of your hip bone. The pack is hung on the top of your hip bone .

Ain't happening. The shoulder straps are too high.

 

[Shrek]

Well , you're stuck then. The belt is designed to ride the top of your hip and will not hold trying to grab the sides of your hips , especially if you have no arse to stop the slide. Adjust the straps down as much as you can and try the belt up where it's designed to ride. Mine come up off my shoulders significantly and the straps are mostly just holding the pack to my back and carrying no weight. I do have a fat arse but it doesn't really come into play as nothing rides that far down.

 

[Brandon Pattison]

Would 24" frame correct this?

 

[Brandon Pattison]

Shrek, maybe my belly button is higher than normal. Between my thumb n fingers is my hip bone.

 

[Shrek]

I'm not a professional fit expert so I don't know. I do know that my belt rides higher as I was advised by Aron and that my shoulder straps lift off my shoulders. I have a custom 28" frame so I'm coming from the opposite direction of problems. It does look like you can use a shorter frame but you can use the longer also I would think. I know Becca famously uses a 26" frame so her and Luke can swap packs when needed and she is fun sized. The extra lift angle is not an issue. I'd just put it on higher and not adjust the straps and go for a short hike. See if the problem is your preconceived idea of how it should fit or if it really doesn't work. I'd do it with one bag not two and then add the second bag if it works with one. At first it feels weird to me to have the pad up high but it settles in and is very comfortable for me. Call Kifaru !

 

[Shrek]

I was typing as you posted. It looks right if that's the top. Call Kifaru and talk to them and send some pictures. I'm not the expert.

 

[Brandon Pattison]

I texted Joe. Holiday weekend has everyone off the grid.

 

[luke moffat]

franklin what exactly do you not like about how your pack is fitting? I don't think I ever wear my belt high enough to be over my belly button personally, but everyone is built different. So long as the belt itself rides on my hip bones as I feel it should I could care less where the buckle ends up. Just go with what feels the most comfortable for you.

 

[ohhiitznik]

Brandon. You need the pack to ride higher. Lower your straps as far as you can.

 

[ohhiitznik]

Put some pics with the belt over your belly button and from the side so I can see the straps and how it looks. Are you making sure the load lifters are fully released everytime you put the pack on?

 

[ohhiitznik]

You got to put the pack on in a sequence. Put it on, tighten shoulder straps up tight. Then tighten the waist belt right. Then cinch up your load lifters (make sure they're lose to start) then release about an inch from the shoulder straps then do your chest strap and adjust

 

[ohhiitznik]

Take a pic of your yolk. Let me see it. there's no way your torso is that short. I put the ol fish eye on you in person last year and you're not that small. If it can fit lawnboi it can fit you. Haha

 

[Larry Bartlett]

sounds crazy maybe, but your back is arched more than the average guy's. You might try to have Aaron retrofit a double thick lumbar pad to balance out the space between your lumbar and your spine. With your anatomy there seems to be more space than average between your thoracic spine (arc) and your lumber. If that's the true case, your shoulder straps and your lumber waist belt are competing against one another, and the result might be that when your shoulder straps are tightened you still can't get a good tight fit with your waist belt...so the packs slips down to your arse crack.

My "design" mind wants to suggest that you need a double thick lumbar pad to close the gap, which might help your comfort and fit. I don't think it's the Kifaru design at all. But that's just brainstorming on this one...

Larry

 

[Larry Bartlett]

And for god's sake Franklin, do some manscaping! that belly is hairier than a saskwashiz arse hole... LOL

 

[MuleyFever]

I have never worn a pack with the belt over my belly button. Always just under.

 

[William Hanson (live2hunt)]

And for god's sake Franklin, do some manscaping! that belly is hairier than a saskwashiz arse hole... LOL

Real men have hair EVERYWHERE! As a matter of fact, if you don't smell like a wet dog when you shower I hate to break it to but you're a woman. Lol