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[Ucsdryder]

Being skeptical doesn't equate to a hater.

When’s the last time you saw t/k or airlock making “skeptical” comments about UM suppressors or laughing faces on other suppressors posts?

No reason to be skeptical at this point. Welcome them, encourage rhem to become a sponsor, and be excited to see more suppressor technology!

I’m excited for a smaller braked suppressor for my 300nmi. I was hoping airlock would do it soon, but it sounds like it might be a while.

 

[MuleyFever]

When’s the last time you saw t/k or airlock making “skeptical” comments about UM suppressors or laughing faces on other suppressors posts?

No reason to be skeptical at this point. Welcome them, encourage rhem to become a sponsor, and be excited to see more suppressor technology!

I’m excited for a smaller braked suppressor for my 300nmi. I was hoping airlock would do it soon, but it sounds like it might be a while.

I'm also excited about new suppressors.

But why is there no reason to be skeptical? When a company claims cutting edge tech we should all be skeptical until testing is done in controlled conditions against peers.

 

[ja4wheel6]

When’s the last time you saw t/k or airlock making “skeptical” comments about UM suppressors or laughing faces on other suppressors posts?

No reason to be skeptical at this point. Welcome them, encourage rhem to become a sponsor, and be excited to see more suppressor technology!

I’m excited for a smaller braked suppressor for my 300nmi. I was hoping airlock would do it soon, but it sounds like it might be a while.

This setup is exactly the reason all of this was born! Magnum lightweight hunting rifles. Recoil mitigation is a must, and hunting unsupressed isn’t fun. So we combined them.

Our [Limited 30] is a 5.9 oz 30 cal can, and excepts the brake technology.

 

[5MilesBack]

Our test rig dry fires 119 -120 depending on the day while gun is in same position realstive to shooters ear.

It's hard to grasp those kinds of numbers when a vacuum cleaner is supposedly around 89 decibels. We must have the loudest vacuum on the planet, because I always feel like I need earpro whenever it's running. And I always do wear earpro when using the ShopVac. Otherwise it hurts my ears.

 

[wind gypsy]

Its been 3 weeks since that big test took place right? Come on out with the results por favor!

 

[RWT]

It's hard to grasp those kinds of numbers when a vacuum cleaner is supposedly around 89 decibels. We must have the loudest vacuum on the planet, because I always feel like I need earpro whenever it's running. And I always do wear earpro when using the ShopVac. Otherwise it hurts my ears.

If I get on my tractor without ear pro I can’t hear for at least 4 hours. Same issue with a chop saw, cordless impact screw gun even a hand held Tpost driver. I now wear the Decibels Acoustics for concerts whenever I use any equipment.

I had typed a very skeptical post as I saw the video as all Marketing Hype. I will wait until published 3rd party data. I also hope they are allowed in the TBAC Suppressor Summit this summer.

 

[5MilesBack]

If I get on my tractor without ear pro I can’t hear for at least 4 hours. Same issue with a chop saw, cordless impact screw gun even a hand held Tpost driver. I now wear the Decibels Acoustics for concerts whenever I use any equipment.

I always wear ear pro with the T post driver, and the saws, etc. But dry firing seems barely even audible compared to all those other things.

 

[HuntHarder]

I always wear ear pro with the T post driver, and the saws, etc. But dry firing seems barely even audible compared to all those other things.

Agree. There is clearly alot more than a layman grabbing a sound meter and posting #'s. 3rd party testing (Pew, Tbac summit) is the way.

 

[MTMeatHunter]

Pretty interested to see the full results of the test.

 

[wind gypsy]

AI said this tenet company was started by Keith Glasscock, is that true?

 

[Ucsdryder]

This thread sure didn’t age well for some… Looks like they put their money where their mouths were.

No quite as quiet as airlock but look at the recoil numbers. And they beat UM in every category on the lightest which I think is probably the most intetesting category for roksliders.

I’d love to see them become active on here, create a sponsorship, and keep us updated on their upcoming releases.

 

[Matt1214]

Yeah they crushed the test. I am ordering one to see it in person.

 

[Escalante11]

What am I missing? They made a LONG can that was quiet, and a light can that was LOUD.

That doesn’t surprise me, and I’m still struggling to see what’s so special with the Tenets the more I play with the raw data set Outdoor Life posted.. I had Claude equal weight i) suppression, ii) length, and iii) weight, and Tenet barely just sneaks in the top 10 in aggregate score. Airlock cans were 1, 2, and 3. If I add in recoil as a 4th input to the above test, the Tenet 6.5 Reserve comes in at 5, but still gets handled by the Airlocks, and even the Scythe-Ti surprisingly.

They set massive expectations marketing 7 patents and 5 years of development, yet this test doesn’t illustrate anything too special, certainly not 7 patents and 5 years of development…

 

[wpeach1912]

What am I missing? They made a LONG can that was quiet, and a light can that was LOUD.

That doesn’t surprise me, and I’m still struggling to see what’s so special with the Tenets the more time I play with the raw data set Outdoor Life posted.. I had Claude equal weight i) suppression, ii) length, and iii) weight, and Tenet barely cracks the top 10 in aggregate score.

(The Airlock cans are 1, 2, and 3, and by a significant margin for what it’s worth)

If I add in recoil as a 4th input to the above test, the Tenet 6.5 Reserve comes in at 5, but still gets handled by the Airlocks, and even the Scythe-Ti surprisingly.

For something with 7 patents and 5 years of development as they claim, I expected much more.

I think the biggest benefit of them is the recoil management. It looks like the gain over a scythe with Gen 2 recoil x is marginal from the impulse standpoint, but they seem to impart less vibration on the system. Plus they’re lighter than most other braked suppressors near their performance. Although they have the NHS as 10.6 oz on their scale, but it was 8.75 oz on my same scale that the scythe/gen 2 recoil x is 12.5 oz on. The 300 prc test does a good job showing how much vibration the suppressors are imparting on the system (albeit quite exaggerated compared to the heavy 6.5)

 

[Q_Sertorius]

I’m curious to look at the raw data on something other than my phone. It irritates me that the data table is not sortable.

But I see nothing remarkable about making a long quiet can. Suppressors have always been about balancing length, weight, and diameter to achieve adequate suppression.

Nor do I care if a suppressor weighs 0.5 ounces less than the competition if it doesn’t also suppress better than the competition.

Obsessing over small numbers seems to be the thing with suppressors, but for me it will always come down to the overall package.

 

[Matt1214]

What am I missing? They made a LONG can that was quiet, and a light can that was LOUD.

That doesn’t surprise me, and I’m still struggling to see what’s so special with the Tenets the more I play with the raw data set Outdoor Life posted.. I had Claude equal weight i) suppression, ii) length, and iii) weight, and Tenet barely just sneaks in the top 10 in aggregate score. Airlock cans were 1, 2, and 3. If I add in recoil as a 4th input to the above test, the Tenet 6.5 Reserve comes in at 5, but still gets handled by the Airlocks, and even the Scythe-Ti surprisingly.

They set massive expectations marketing 7 patents and 5 years of development, yet this test doesn’t illustrate anything too special, certainly not 7 patents and 5 years of development…

Airlock is the king of suppression of sound for sure. But I am wiling to sacrifice 1.5” and three ounces more than airlock to have some of the best recoil management. The tenet 30 one port looks to own the best all around if you look at the data.

 

[Split toe]

I’m tuned in for this. Need a good option for Mammoth.

 

[wind gypsy]

What am I missing? They made a LONG can that was quiet, and a light can that was LOUD.

That doesn’t surprise me, and I’m still struggling to see what’s so special with the Tenets the more I play with the raw data set Outdoor Life posted.. I had Claude equal weight i) suppression, ii) length, and iii) weight, and Tenet barely just sneaks in the top 10 in aggregate score. Airlock cans were 1, 2, and 3. If I add in recoil as a 4th input to the above test, the Tenet 6.5 Reserve comes in at 5, but still gets handled by the Airlocks, and even the Scythe-Ti surprisingly.

They set massive expectations marketing 7 patents and 5 years of development, yet this test doesn’t illustrate anything too special, certainly not 7 patents and 5 years of development…

I think you’re underselling the recoil reduction part. People care or else they wouldn’t go hunting with obnoxiously loud brakes. Give that recoil reduction with a less noise than a bare muzzle and not a ton of weight and you’re in the money.

 

[Huntnpack 2]

I think you’re underselling the recoil reduction part. People care or else they wouldn’t go hunting with obnoxiously loud brakes. Give that recoil reduction with a less noise than a bare muzzle and not a ton of weight and you’re in the money.

Definitely a market for a quiet Brake without the concussive effects. Some people have that as their priority in a muzzle device.

 

[Bojangles21]

What am I missing? They made a LONG can that was quiet, and a light can that was LOUD.

That doesn’t surprise me, and I’m still struggling to see what’s so special with the Tenets the more I play with the raw data set Outdoor Life posted.. I had Claude equal weight i) suppression, ii) length, and iii) weight, and Tenet barely just sneaks in the top 10 in aggregate score. Airlock cans were 1, 2, and 3. If I add in recoil as a 4th input to the above test, the Tenet 6.5 Reserve comes in at 5, but still gets handled by the Airlocks, and even the Scythe-Ti surprisingly.

They set massive expectations marketing 7 patents and 5 years of development, yet this test doesn’t illustrate anything too special, certainly not 7 patents and 5 years of development…

"LOUD"? 141db is not LOUD for a 5.5oz, 5" can lol. It's one of the shortest and lightest cans on the market, with much better recoil reduction of any can in its class, size wise.