Defiance wait

[Bouldar]

When I ordered my action, there was a 40 week lead time. It should have been ready next week. I asked if it was still on track and was told today that it is 5 months behind. I am stuck. I would cancel but I already have the barrel and stock for a defiance. Thought about seeing if a dealer had one in stock but they increased the price.
I don’t know why the website says they are taking new orders if they are 13 or more months behind. Hope this may help someone with their decision making.

 

[Alex Genereux]

I was hoping to build a rifle on a defiance anti x but after talking with a gun builder they were unsure about lead times and apparently how they order has all changed. Sounds like they may even be going away from using their actions.

 

[Samson7x]

Yep, things aren't great at the moment with the change of ownership. The increase in price has turned many away from using them.

 

[Alex Genereux]

It’s just hard to know what direction I should go now they are getting other stuff in but heavier and doesn’t have a machined rail.

 

[Bouldar]

If I was starting today, I would look at either a zermatt or kelbly. Kelbly is now on here I saw.

 

[vonb]

I have Zermatt, Borden, Surgeon and Defiance. Of the 4, I like the Defiance the best. They’re all great actions. There’s been a lot of mud slinging towards Defiance lately. I hope they can come around and address operations to be in line with other’s prices. I don’t think you’ll be disappointed with a Defiance.

With that said, these are the concerns when purchasing a custom action. You never know long term viability of the company. I went through the same thing with Surgeon. I have an early one when Preston was at the helm. It’s a great action as well but Surgeon isn’t the same company that started.

 

[Bouldar]

I am not meaning to sling mud. I cannot speak for quality as I have never touched one. I researched quite a bit and Defiance is what I have my heart set on. That being said, if I had known it would be over a year wait, I would have gone with something else.

 

[Sevens]

I'd sell the barrel and buy a Kelbly's Nanook! Saw some for sale recently at Altus and J&A Outdoors (no relation, but bought actions from both companies before with great results).

Kelbly will even spin you a pre-fit for the action if you send them the barrel.