Defiance price increase rumor?

[Lawnboi]

Appreciate you sticking your neck out and commenting
@Eric Stecker

As the owner of a defiance action, that I hope to have for a very long time, I hope you guys continue moving forward.

 

[Eric Stecker]

I’m going to tell two stories. Both are true. I’ll try to make it brief.

A guy starts dating a girl. He’s 18 and she’s 17. The parents find out. They don’t like the guy, so they have him arrested for statutory rape. He is convicted, does time and is registered as a convicted rapist.

That guy ends up marrying that girl, they have 2 kids together and are still happily married. Holidays are awkward for sure but even her parents and anyone reasonable wouldn’t call this guy a rapist based on these circumstances.

A guy hunts 26 weeks (26 individual hunts) a year for 14 years all over the world. Hunts can be for 1 or multiple animals. Over this entire time and all these hunts, there is 1 paperwork mix up that finds them on a planned hunt for 2 animals but with only 1 tag.

The moment the guy realizes the mistake he turns himself in to the local warden and accepts whatever outcome is a result because he admits he made a mistake. The officials clear up the matter with no fanfare since there was no intent to do harm.

Some time passes and a reporter combing the records finds something he can spin into a juicy story to sell advertisement. He reports the headline “TV Host is a Poacher!”.

The guy immediately calls all the sponsors of the TV show (one of which was me) and tells them exactly what happened with all back up evidence and facts. His sponsors reviewed the situation, considered the facts and regarding what happened as a non-issue. He didn’t lose a single sponsor due to the facts of the situation.

Is this guy a convicted poacher? Technically yes. Does it mean that he acted with the malicious intent of a true poacher? Anyone reasonable including all the people who supported Bob’s TV show knows that he’s not.

To be a true rapist or poacher you must be a specific type of person with genuine intent to do harm knowingly. To put that label on someone who is clearly not that person, does them and their reputation a serious disservice that is unwarranted.

People can hold any opinion they want. I don’t see the world as simply black and white. My opinions change as the world changes and new facts emerge. I let people’s character and behavior tell me who they truly are, not the labels that others who don’t know the whole story thrust upon them.

I'll add a few more facts to further illuminate the ridiculousness of the headline. The scheduled hunt was of course during legal hunting season with a legal method of take. The local authorities treated the occurrence as an "incident" which is not technically poaching.

Also, keep in mind that Bob wasn't suspended from hunting or classified as a felon. He had and still has 3 FFLs and 2 outfitter permits. None of this would be possible if he were a felon poacher.

 

[Go West Old Man]

Everyone who purchased a Defiance action, specifically the anTi, Outcast and Tenacity before the price increase can thank Defiance for the extra cash that was put into the box when your action shipped. You may not have seen it, but I assure you, Defiance gave it to you. The other actions were anemic enough that the situation was dire and urgent.

@Eric Stecker , is it correct that orders already in and received from dealers & builders, but not yet manufactured, prior to the price increase decision and effective date were then retroactively included in the increase? Not making judgement here, just asking if this was true. Thanks.

 

[Flyjunky]

@Eric Stecker , is it correct that orders already in and received from dealers & builders, but not yet manufactured, prior to the price increase decision and effective date were then retroactively included in the increase? Not making judgement here, just asking if this was true. Thanks.

I'm not answering for Eric but I'll tell you my situation. In November of '21 my smith placed an order for a ruckus ga hunter and that action was just delivered to my smith 2 weeks ago. I had changed an option to my order after a few months so that was part of the delay I was told, along with a machine going down over the summer, but my price wasn't changed. Isn't exactly the situation you were asking but thought I would pass it along anyway.

 

[Eric Stecker]

@Eric Stecker , is it correct that orders already in and received from dealers & builders, but not yet manufactured, prior to the price increase decision and effective date were then retroactively included in the increase? Not making judgement here, just asking if this was true. Thanks.

This is correct with the exception of those who made deposits. Defiance cannot stay open if we didn't make this price change immediately and to existing orders.

We accept that this will lead to cancelled orders, but the alternative is Defiance closing and no one getting actions at any price.

 

[Mattman215]

I have two defiance actions and will prob have a 3rd shortly. With the price increase I’ll still buy them over other manufacturers. The way I see it, you don’t order a custom action to save money and defiance has always been great to me. I have tried other companies who make a great product but I personally like defiance more. As long as quality does not change and customer service stays the same they won’t lose my business.

 

[wind gypsy]

I see GAP moved all their standard builds to Impact actions now. They all used to be GAP branded defiance actions.