Dall sheep doable for under 25k ?

[Ophert]

could you point the harvest datas and population census for nwt?
thank you.

I don't have published reports. I know the bios though.

 

[medvedyt]

I don't have published reports. I know the bios though.

ok here in the Yukon they are publishing the harvest and census and you should try to have them public which will be easier to understand the dynamic between the population and harvest.

 

[Ophert]

ok here in the Yukon they are publishing the harvest and census and you should try to have them public which will be easier to understand the dynamic between the population and harvest.

NWT has 16-20 thousand dall sheep. Outfitters harvest 180-220 a year and residents harvest about 2-12 per year. It’s been that way for a long time. Age class and lamb recruitment indicate no loss in sheep numbers.

 

[Northern Safari]

NWT has 16-20 thousand dall sheep. Outfitters harvest 180-220 a year and residents harvest about 2-12 per year. It’s been that way for a long time. Age class and lamb recruitment indicate no loss in sheep numbers.

That’s a lot of sheep, didn’t realize there were that many in the NWT.

 

[Ophert]

That’s a lot of sheep, didn’t realize there were that many in the NWT.

Quite a few of them are inaccessible - like the populations in Nahanni and Nááts'įhch'oh park, and about 700-1000 in the Richardson mountains that are closed to harvest.

The parks make a good reservoir for sheep though which spills out near the boundaries of the parks. You can get into some really nice rams if you hunt closer to the borders.

There is also good dispersion of harvest of rams due to helicopter use by the outfitters too which is nice for residents, it ensures that the more accessible and cheaper to fly into areas near the lakes don't get hammered too hard. Some outfitters work with charter companies to block access to lakes, mainly in the northern Mackenzies - which is complete BS and frustrating considering residents harvest like 10 sheep a year lol.

Another nice thing is the 3/4 harvest rule. Of course you want to get a full curl mature ram, but it's nice to have a bit of leeway and not have to study a sheep/get a perfect picture to make sure he is full curl so you don't do anything illegal.

My favorite thing about hunting the NWT is there are plenty of areas with zero outfitters operating at all, and few resident hunters. You can get into prime moose hunting country that has basically never been hunted ever. There is even a small area for sheep where no outfitters operate.

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[Northern Safari]

So if we have confirmed that $25,000 is unrealistic for a guided Dall Sheep today, what is that bottom threshold today? $50,000 USD? $60,000 USD?

 

[bluemaroon]

$25k Dall hunt does exist!!! Just saw this cancellation hunt on Facebook with a legit booking agent.

Catch of course is you better be in sheep shape NOW and ready to go immediately.

 

[Northern Safari]

Great

$25k Dall hunt does exist!!! Just saw this cancellation hunt on Facebook with a legit booking agent.

Catch of course is you better be in sheep shape NOW and ready to go immediately.

a great deal for anyone that is able to take advantage and pick up and go on the fly.

Retiree special haha.

 

[MallardSX2]

Would you

I went once in 2007 in the Alaska Range all in for 8k. I was 44 and told my wife I wanted to experience this once before I got too old. Best decision I ever made.

Would you have had the same feeling if you had come home empty handed?

 

[outlook8]

$25k Dall hunt does exist!!! Just saw this cancellation hunt on Facebook with a legit booking agent.

Catch of course is you better be in sheep shape NOW and ready to go immediately.

Came here to post this as well! Somebody needs to jump on this.

 

[Falcon]

Would you



Would you have had the same feeling if you had come home empty handed?

 

[Falcon]

It was as an amazing trip, but to be honest , coming home empty handed would a heart breaker.
I knew that would always be a possibility , but I was lucky with good sheep numbers and weather.
So I guess the answer would be coming home without a ram would be tough.

 

[S-3 ranch]

Quite a few of them are inaccessible - like the populations in Nahanni and Nááts'įhch'oh park, and about 700-1000 in the Richardson mountains that are closed to harvest.

The parks make a good reservoir for sheep though which spills out near the boundaries of the parks. You can get into some really nice rams if you hunt closer to the borders.

There is also good dispersion of harvest of rams due to helicopter use by the outfitters too which is nice for residents, it ensures that the more accessible and cheaper to fly into areas near the lakes don't get hammered too hard. Some outfitters work with charter companies to block access to lakes, mainly in the northern Mackenzies - which is complete BS and frustrating considering residents harvest like 10 sheep a year lol.

Another nice thing is the 3/4 harvest rule. Of course you want to get a full curl mature ram, but it's nice to have a bit of leeway and not have to study a sheep/get a perfect picture to make sure he is full curl so you don't do anything illegal.

My favorite thing about hunting the NWT is there are plenty of areas with zero outfitters operating at all, and few resident hunters. You can get into prime moose hunting country that has basically never been hunted ever. There is even a small area for sheep where no outfitters operate.

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I kinda hate the 3/4 rules, it’s really messed up the sheep hunting game
I was with my uncle on a stone sheep hunt and in 14 days of actual hunting
I got sick of hearing “ he’s a “ legal ram “ only to put glass on some real dink’s
Luckily Hank didn’t fall into the I paid big money and time I’m just gonna kill something, but maybe that’s just what sheep hunting has become?

 

[Stew]

I kinda hate the 3/4 rules, it’s really messed up the sheep hunting game
I was with my uncle on a stone sheep hunt and in 14 days of actual hunting
I got sick of hearing “ he’s a “ legal ram “ only to put glass on some real dink’s
Luckily Hank didn’t fall into the I paid big money and time I’m just gonna kill something, but maybe that’s just what sheep hunting has become?

Where abouts were you stone hunting which outfitter and how long ago?

 

[medvedyt]

I kinda hate the 3/4 rules, it’s really messed up the sheep hunting game
I was with my uncle on a stone sheep hunt and in 14 days of actual hunting
I got sick of hearing “ he’s a “ legal ram “ only to put glass on some real dink’s
Luckily Hank didn’t fall into the I paid big money and time I’m just gonna kill something, but maybe that’s just what sheep hunting has become?

i cant even imagine what you think about the full curl rule we have here.

 

[S-3 ranch]

Where abouts were you stone hunting which outfitter and how long ago?

It was 9 years ago, and I would have to ask Hank which outfitting company he used, our guide was Jacob
It was a tough hunt in the toad river area ,

 

[Stew]

It was 9 years ago, and I would have to ask Hank which outfitting company he used, our guide was Jacob
It was a tough hunt in the toad river area ,

Ok thanks, well being in B.C. and stone sheep the 3/4 rule wouldnt of had any affect on it. The toad river area has been known to produce some nice sheep. Not sure what type of ram you were expecting or looking for but if guide was saying legal and you were saying just a dink ram would be interesting as to what was being seen.
Also you mentioned you were tired of hearing it so must of been seeing rams. Most of the bigger name outfitters dont want to shoot young or questionable rams but there is always cases of bad outfitters. Also some areas have better spots for better sheep and unfortunately some hunters get sent to some not so good spots.
Would be interested which outfitter you were with.


Did a quick check on region 7 in B.C. which is were Toad River is it went to full curl rams in 1976-77 before that was 7/8 mature so the 3/4 rule doesnt really apply to why you say you saw small sheep or how it messed up the sheep game, at least doesnt were you were hunting.

 

[Ophert]

I kinda hate the 3/4 rules, it’s really messed up the sheep hunting game
I was with my uncle on a stone sheep hunt and in 14 days of actual hunting
I got sick of hearing “ he’s a “ legal ram “ only to put glass on some real dink’s
Luckily Hank didn’t fall into the I paid big money and time I’m just gonna kill something, but maybe that’s just what sheep hunting has become?

I get it, but 3/4 curl has no effect on the NWT populations of sheep. Theres like 10 sheep being harvested by residents per year and I don't think any of the outfitters here are shooting less than full curl sheep, maybe I am wrong.