Cooper Muzzleloader ?

[Cooper Firearms of Montana]

If any of you guys are local or kind of local I would encourage you to come in & allow me to give you a tour of the place so that you can see our rifles being made.

 

[dotman]

Tim,
At this time a laminate is the closest thing to a synthetic that we are offering. If sales or demand warrants it I'm sure we would offer a synthetic. IF we offered a synthetic, it would probably be a B&C Medalist or perhaps a Manners product. It's just hard to say at this point.

Thanks, I'll keep an eye on this one for sure.

 

[dotman]

If any of you guys are local or kind of local I would encourage you to come in & allow me to give you a tour of the place so that you can see our rifles being made.

I would take you up on that but it is a little bit of a drive from KC

 

[sabotloader]

Sabotloader,

The rifle you are showing is the Model 57-M, which is a rimfire. The action length of the M22 is 8.25" long, if that helps. In all honesty, it is a long rifle, there just isn't any way to sugar coat that. I've used it in dark timber (on the slopes of Trapper Peak in the Bitterroots) & it wasn't obnoxious to use, but it's not a Marlin Guide Gun or a Winchester M94 Trapper either. For serious brush country or PNW rain forest use, I think a shorter more specialized rifle would be handier. I'll try to get some pics up to give you guys a better idea of it's scale.

Pictures look great!

While the length issue is from my prospective - I really do not think it would be a real factor for most - I just threw that out there as something you might hear/read from others.

I will tell you right now I think that the rifle will be awesome and looks awesome. I am also sure that it functions as well as it looks. I also understand the thought of the composite stock. Most of my rifle are equipped with the composite stock. While I love the looks of wood I really feel the composite for the type of hunting and the weather I hunt in would be the way I would want to go also. For myself only... my rifles are really tools, I think I would fear dinging that good looking wood or scratching the finish...

If you ever come over to northern Idaho bring one of those babies and we can run out to the farm and do some shooting!

 

[Cooper Firearms of Montana]

Thanks for the kind words & I have passed along to the "powers that be" the suggestions about adding a synthetic stock. If anyone has any further questions please don't be afraid to ask

 

[dotman]

Thanks for the kind words & I have passed along to the "powers that be" the suggestions about adding a synthetic stock. If anyone has any further questions please don't be afraid to ask

Thanks, while wood looks great it drives up cost and isn't as durable against the elements on a backcountry hunt, imo. I have a Kimber that came with a beautiful wood stock, it was immediately replaced with a synthetic. I'm good with either B&C or manners or both . Obviously the B&C should drop the price the most but if you could offer a $1200 light weight option I think it would sell very well! For me highend wood stocks are for safe queens not to be beat around.

 

[Cooper Firearms of Montana]

I fully understand the utility of synthetic stocks & hope we can make something happen on that front but that doesn't stop me from beating the brush with a nice stock & high polish blue job! I think honest wear is classy

 

[Cooper Firearms of Montana]

Here are some pics of the breach plug removal wrench that we've made. The material/finish of the wrench will match the receiver of the rifle. Example, a high polish blue action gets a high polish blue wrench. There will be high polish blue, matte blue, & matte stainless finishes available. Cerakote finish is also available in several colors & of course the wrench would match.

 

[Cooper Firearms of Montana]

Here is a pic from the early developmental stages that shows the threads on the barrel & for the plug. Aso shown is a prototype plug. I thought it might interest you guys.

 

[Cooper Firearms of Montana]

I would also like to point out that the rifle shown by Sabotloader earlier in this thread was also shown at the SHOT Show & is also in a full page ad in Rifle & Handloader magazines.

 

[Cooper Firearms of Montana]

A pic of the rifle last hunting season near Trapper Peak in the Bitterroots.

 

[sabotloader]

Just watched the video that Robby posted in the sticky about visiting the Copper Booth. It really does look like another real quality ML to be added to the market. Wish they were closer for a visit - I sure would take that opportunity. Then maybe I could pull the trigger on one a couple of times... I would even like to break one down just to see the functional parts...