Consistent flyers in 5-round group

 
I'm certainly going to try the method on the next load development that I do. As far as the two current loads I'm testing, I feel like it isn't an issue with the load itself. If it was I would being seeing a more consistent spread on my "cone of fire" right? I feel like statistically its not likely for me to be stacking 3/5 rounds in the same hole and then two shots that bring that group to a 2 MOA size. If the load was in fact a 2 MOA load it should be sitting relatively consistently spread throughout that 2 MOA cone correct? This is why I was leaning towards the issue being flinching or scope. I have an Arken scope on order for a cheaper fun build I'm working on that I may swap onto the rifle to test as well. I know its not a high end trusted optic but it may tell me my scope is the issue.
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The takeaway I have from them is there is not necessarily anything significant about the fliers you're showing here. If you have a 2MOA cone of fire (or larger) they can show up anywhere in that cone with no pattern and some will coincidentally stack on top of each other in small groups.
 
Just don’t waste any extra money modifying it.
No money will be wasted modifying it. If I cant get it to shoot well and its not the scope or the loads ill probably send it to CA and see what they say or ill sell it off
 
I've personally never had a problem shooting lots of magnum rounds in a day as far as concussion/headache symptoms.
The boomers I referenced in my post are much much more boom than your PRC or your average magnum. 100gn or more more powder, 300-320gn bullets and more velocity than a 300 PRC. I probably wouldn't notice a 300 PRC so much but these guys have been hammering me. That said at some point any magnum or even more so a braked magnum could be affecting you more than a standard cartridge wether you really notice it or not.
 
The boomers I referenced in my post are much much more boom than your PRC or your average magnum. 100gn or more more powder, 300-320gn bullets and more velocity than a 300 PRC. I probably wouldn't notice a 300 PRC so much but these guys have been hammering me. That said at some point any magnum or even more so a braked magnum could be affecting you more than a standard cartridge wether you really notice it or not.
oh you talkin about them big big boom booms
 
Also if your shooting 2-3moa in 5 rounds don’t waste more rounds on seeing your actual cone
I guess what im trying to figure out then is my cone actually 2-3 moa or is flinching or a scope issue causing it to be 2-3 moa. The three rounds stacked on top of each is whats making me hesitant that my cone is actually 2-3 moa and theres another issue, but sounds like youre more convinced thats just what my cone is? Am I wrong to think that the three stacked rounds mean anything?
 
Am I wrong to think that the three stacked rounds mean anything?
No, not at all. Your cone might be closer to those stacked three but unless you figure it out you're stuck with 2-3 moa is your cone at the moment. Case in point. I've been tutoring a newer shooter. His cone is probably 3-4 moa (mby bigger), his rifles cone with me shooting is ~1moa or mby less. I have not shot a 3-5 shot group at or over 1 moa with his rifle but I haven't shot it a lot, only as a reference helping him testing factory ammunition. Another note: If it were up to him solely to test ammunition he couldn't tell you which one was better than any of the others. I can get a bit better read on what might be working or not if I hop in to shoot a little and see.
 
I guess what im trying to figure out then is my cone actually 2-3 moa or is flinching or a scope issue causing it to be 2-3 moa. The three rounds stacked on top of each is whats making me hesitant that my cone is actually 2-3 moa and theres another issue, but sounds like youre more convinced thats just what my cone is? Am I wrong to think that the three stacked rounds mean anything?

Whatever it is it’s not normal. I wouldn’t consider three stacked with one or two out to be anything but a terrible group. For what they charge for those rifles you can and should have a rifle that shoots much better.

Scope, sure could be as well.

Flinch, I would consider that as much an issue as anything else. If your clinching st the bench or flat range it’s only going to be magnified in the field. If you’re that sensitive to this, and don’t take that as a dig; dropping down in recoil and noise might benefit you.

Good luck. I dealt with this with a mesa long ago. Learned a lot since then and regret spending so much effort on that rifle.
 
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