pacoalcracker
WKR
<2 grand is cheap...I've paid a lot more than that for figured and finely hand checkered hand-built and hand fitted wooden stocks....properly laid out figured blanks are expensive and so is talented labor.
Yes, a tikka can easily be modified to take advantage of the full action length.As I said in the OP, I reload. So, within safe limits, I can get the most I want out of any chambering.
What I am really trying to determine is what advantage(s) I gain from 6.5 CM in the T3X versus another chambering in the T3X. I’m not interested in theoretical 6.5 CM vs another chambering in “any rifle.”
All these chamberings have 1:8 twist barrels in the T3X. That’s a constant. My assumption is that all will shoot “current” bullets equally well. Is that a valid assumption?
This is a hunting rifle. Max COAL is limited by the magazine and what will chamber. Single feeding is not an option.
The action length is the same no matter the chambering. The difference is in the magazine block and bolt stop.
Presumably, if I went with the 6.5x55, I would have the long action bolt stop and no magazine block. The case length for the 6.5x55 is 2.165” (55mm). The 6.5x55 lists 3.150” (80mm) as max length, but my Google Fu tells me that I can get 3.34” out of the T3X magazine. So, my max COAL would be limited my the magazine. And I could load whatever “current” bullets I want in it and have them perform just as well as in any other 1:8 twist barrel (up to the 3.34 COAL).
Likewise, if I went with the 6.5 CM, 7mm-08, or .308, I would have the medium action bolt stop and a magazine block. The case length for the 6.5 CM is 1.92” (48.8mm) The 6.5 CM’s max length is listed as 2.825” (71.8 mm). The 6.5 CM would have a small advantage in length vs the 7mm-08 (2.035” (51.7mm)) or .308 (2.015” (51.2mm)). So, presumably, with the same magazine block, the 6.5 CM can seat a longer bullet out a bit further than the other two in an unmodified T3X.
But, can the T3X be easily modified to take full advantage of the longer action by changing the bolt stop and magazine? What, if any, other modifications would be required to ensure reliable feeding? If that works, that might allow me to get the absolute most practical COAL out of one of the shorter cartridges, right?
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Likely a bunch of ctrs out there that would beg to differ.I would love to see a 10 round 1/2 minute group from a stock tikka. They dont exist.
Apparently its true…opinions are like assholes, everyone has them.
Opinion aside, I did not see your question answered straight on.
Yes, a tikka can easily be modified to take advantage of the full action length.
7mm-08, 308 will have a short action bolt stop, and a M magazine. As you found the bolt stop is designed a touch long, which could be good or bad depending on length you want. If you loaded a short-action cartridge long, you can go up in length simply by moving to M+ mags designed for 6.5cm. At some point you need to step up to a LA bolt stop and L magazines. Those are the ONLY modifications needed, and are as easy as taking the action out of the stock and pulling the drift pin holding the bolt stop on—super easy. A short or la bolt stop is $35. Factory mags are plentiful. So for a few dollars to gain whatever flexibility you want, there is zero down side to any of those chamberings as far as a starting point really limiting you.
I dont reload and dont know exact lengths that will fit, but I do have M+ and L mags here I could measure internal length if you want—I believe that will be the only real limitation.
Get a T3x Lite in plastic. Go shoot it. You decide you agree with coal stockings, then sell it any you will not be out much. You decide you like it, then get the stock rather than another rifle next time money comes around.If I was to get the Rokstok, one advantage might be that I could more easily get the 20” threaded barrel I want. And possibly some other desirable features. But it certainly is an expensive addition.
If the dude(s) who keep suggesting that extra cost is well worth it, want to contribute to the “get me a new rifle fund”, I won’t object.
“Keep on keepin’ on…”
The quest and quest ultra offer an improved version of the carbon wolf stock which is a pretty good field stock.If the Sakos had after market stocks, I would get one. I just don’t like any of their stocks that I have held. I really wanted their carbon hunter, but their carbon stock had forearm flex. Until that day, I will just go with the Tikka even though after I do the mods I want it ends up close in cost.
Assuming you saw the cat on here selling 6 of them right?Im looking at getting a 308 BAR.
Enjoy your Tikka!
Rather, your grandfather prolly said "disputandum" if he was a Roman senator or legionnaire, but a lot of times spellings got changed once those guys came over and landed in New Amsterdam, Philadelphia, or Myrtle Beach.I think that’s a rather unkind way to describe the Tikkas I saw today, but, as my grandfather used to say, “De gustibus non est disputandem.”*
* - “Do not argue in matters of taste.”
“Keep on keepin’ on…”
Rather, your grandfather prolly said "disputandum" if he was a Roman senator or legionnaire, but a lot of times spellings got changed once those guys came over and landed in New Amsterdam, Philadelphia, or Myrtle Beach.
So who nos?
No. Usualky whem someone says they want sumthing, they usually get one.Assuming you saw the cat on here selling 6 of them right?
$1300. On here posted a few hours ago.No. Usualky whem someone says they want sumthing, they usually get one.
That cat offering at fair prices or does he think they made of gold?