Component Tolerances- Is this acceptable?

[TCUHunter34]

Currently building the same arrow I have used for a few years now. DaySix updated their component system since the last time I purchased. Arrow shafts are squared, is this gap acceptable between arrow shaft and where it meets the end of the component system?

 

[OR Archer]

Definitely not the right components for that spine shaft. If it’s what they supplied with the shafts just contact them and let them rectify the problem

 

[sndmn11]

@dkime

 

[Beendare]

I'm trying to figure out what I'm looking at there. Is there a prong that goes inside the shaft? Could it be there is an outer sleeve that overlaps the shaft and the outsert thats missing?

That looks weird to me and I generally do not like those outserts at all. Some of these "Arrow systems" are overkill and create headaches when it comes to pulling arrows- especially the good bag targets.

 

[TCUHunter34]

I'm trying to figure out what I'm looking at there. Is there a prong that goes inside the shaft? Could it be there is an outer sleeve that overlaps the shaft and the outsert thats missing?

That looks weird to me and I generally do not like those outserts at all. Some of these "Arrow systems" are overkill and create headaches when it comes to pulling arrows- especially the good bag targets.

Correct, I’ve included pictures of the outer sleeve here and the prong that goes inside the shaft. It’s a great system overall, very strong and consistent.

The version on the left is the older one, on the right is the newer version from Daysix. The ones on the right are where I have the gap with the end of the arrow shaft.

 

[TCUHunter34]

Definitely not the right components for that spine shaft. If it’s what they supplied with the shafts just contact them and let them rectify the problem

It’s the HD 350 component system from Day6 paired with Victory VAP 250 spine shaft.

 

[TheTone]

Correct, I’ve included pictures of the outer sleeve here and the prong that goes inside the shaft. It’s a great system overall, very strong and consistent.

The version on the left is the older one, on the right is the newer version from Daysix. The ones on the right are where I have the gap with the end of the arrow shaft.

Based on that is the sleeve part supposed to screw onto the back of the half out? So you would have to put it on as one put together component then, assuming the arrow is fletched

 

[dkime]

no

@dkime

Sorry guys been busy and didn’t see the tag, yes this is how all outsert components will be, the exceptions being one that has an undercut on the location where a center pin meets a square shoulder.

The question is why is this so?

Two reasons #1 tool nose radius’ are a thing. Yes you can create a perfectly sharp inside radius with tools but the reason why not to do that is covered in the next reason

#2 strength. If I create a sharp inside corner it will create a weak point in the system thus giving it a sharp location to snap off. The tool radius creates a stronger joint and doesn’t allow the component to snap off right at the end of the shaft

More info

Can you avoid this gap while installing?

Yep sure can, you can use a chamfer stone if it bothers you and nock off the sharp corner of the ID of the shaft and it will allow that gap to close.

How much will it close? Hard telling because the gap will always be there at some level.

Is it going to cause an issue?

The entire gap will be filled with epoxy if installed correctly and the epoxy joint will ultimately be stronger than the shaft will at that point anyway.

Long story short, the inside radius is there for a reason, the goal is to design and manufacture the strongest system we could. When installed correctly it will only make the system stronger. Use a chamfer stone or similar item if the gap bothers you enough and makes you feel better about the aesthetics.

I’ll try to be available more but we’re sitting down for Sunday dinner currently


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[dkime]

Based on that is the sleeve part supposed to screw onto the back of the half out? So you would have to put it on as one put together component then, assuming the arrow is fletched

System goes on as one unit, the reason why we moved away from the old system is because folks were trying to leave the collar loose and only glue in the insert. Had to engineer a way around that


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[TCUHunter34]

Thanks for the answers @dkime. Clears it up very well!

Enjoy your dinner!

 

[dkime]

Thanks for the answers @dkime. Clears it up very well!

Enjoy your dinner!

No problem buddy, reach out anytime


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