Colorado Unit 81 now a draw instead of OTC for Archery

[Ry_Harr_81]

So you cannot buy an OTC tag for 81 in August?

 

[TheHammer]

So you cannot buy an OTC tag for 81 in August?

For the last 2 seasons… next year will be all units draw for non residents

 

[Ry_Harr_81]

Thanks...seems like the last yr you could do OTC is the last year I went. I just looked up the map per unit. Gunna have to switch plans up for the next trip. Farewell red bridge area and driving up thru Chama!

 

[___DAN___]

Thanks...seems like the last yr you could do OTC is the last year I went. I just looked up the map per unit. Gunna have to switch plans up for the next trip. Farewell red bridge area and driving up thru Chama!

The last season archery was otc for NR was in 2021. Was 100% draw odds for first choice 0 points last year. Heard of several people not drawing this year 1st choice. Looks like point creep is beginning.

 

[NMBigGame]

Heard of several people not drawing this year 1st choice. Looks like point creep is beginning.

Looks like you've been lied to. Results show 188 people drew 80/81 archery as their second choice.

 

[lak2004]

The last season archery was otc for NR was in 2021. Was 100% draw odds for first choice 0 points last year. Heard of several people not drawing this year 1st choice. Looks like point creep is beginning.

Yea that's definitely inaccurate.

 

[___DAN___]

What exactly are you saying isn’t accurate?

 

[___DAN___]

Looks like you've been lied to. Results show 188 people drew 80/81 archery as their second choice.

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Interesting. Well does this tell you how many applied 1st choice? I’d be curious because I know two that say that didn’t get drawn 1st choice.

 

[Roger17]

Interesting. Well does this tell you how many applied 1st choice? I’d be curious because I know two that say that didn’t get drawn 1st choice.

It does tell you that. Tags were drawn out at 2nd choice. 100% of first choice applicants drew. Res and non-res. Whoever is telling you they didn't draw as 1st choice are giving you incorrect info.

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[___DAN___]

It does tell you that. Tags were drawn out at 2nd choice. 100% of first choice applicants drew. Res and non-res. Whoever is telling you they didn't draw as 1st choice are giving you incorrect info.

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Understood.

 

[Elktaco]

81 is a good unit that will be a great one soon by reducing hunter density a little. Looking forward to having a few 350's to chase around instead of 320's!

 

[Dave_]

81 is a good unit that will be a great one soon by reducing hunter density a little. Looking forward to having a few 350's to chase around instead of 320's!

Im sure the 2000 archery draw tags and unlimited otc 2nd/3rd rifle tags will help herd quality in 80/81 ...

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[TheHammer]

Im sure the 2000 archery draw tags and unlimited otc 2nd/3rd rifle tags will help herd quality in 80/81 ...

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Still too many archery hunters.

 

[lak2004]

What exactly are you saying isn’t accurate?

Sorry the screenshot didn't turn out. Everyone who put in for 1st choice drew, resident and nonresident. Go here and see draw recap report.

Elk - Statistics

Elk hunting statistics.

cpw.state.co.us

 

[LostArra]

Is there any way to know if hunter density was actually affected by going from OTC to a draw?
It seems like everyone that applies gets a tag.
I guess the draw just weeds out those Texans and Oklahomans who don't want to plan ahead and apply for the draw.
When I used to bow hunt there in the OTC days there were lots of trucks and horse trailers but I never saw anyone in the woods especially when you hit the wilderness area.

 

[TheHammer]

Is there any way to know if hunter density was actually affected by going from OTC to a draw?
It seems like everyone that applies gets a tag.
I guess the draw just weeds out those Texans and Oklahomans who don't want to plan ahead and apply for the draw.
When I used to bow hunt there in the OTC days there were lots of trucks and horse trailers but I never saw anyone in the woods especially when you hit the wilderness area.

I believe the strategy was to start with the calculated approximate amount of hunters from the last 2 years of otc (2400 archery hunters) then dial it back to meet herd management goals. But guys are also becoming more educated and ambitious. Gear is also better and lighter than ever.

 

[___DAN___]

Sorry the screenshot didn't turn out. Everyone who put in for 1st choice drew, resident and nonresident. Go here and see draw recap report.

Elk - Statistics

Elk hunting statistics.

cpw.state.co.us

Thanks!

 

[___DAN___]

I believe the strategy was to start with the calculated approximate amount of hunters from the last 2 years of otc (2400 archery hunters) then dial it back to meet herd management goals. But guys are also becoming more educated and ambitious. Gear is also better and lighter than ever.

Wasn’t there like 3800 tags bought or something crazy like that during cvoid? Anyhow I’ve felt the pressure drop off first hand since the unit went to draw. Less vehicles at the trail head. I’m still shocked I didn’t draw a deer tag with a point.

 

[___DAN___]

81 is a good unit that will be a great one soon by reducing hunter density a little. Looking forward to having a few 350's to chase around instead of 320's!

Amen! Though I think it’s already a great unit.

 

[___DAN___]

Still too many archery hunters.

You’d be surprised how quiet it is during the late rifle seasons up there especially around the divide and the higher altitude areas. It’s a ghost town. Are the late seasons still OTC?