Coffee makers and grinders

[millerstone]

This is correct. A quality drip coffee maker has a purpose as being simple and brewing high volumes.

Once you start brewing with niche makers and controlling individual variables, the whole game changes.

I have/had so many different brewers (including >$2k) and grinders (up to the $1k mark). In my opinion, the best daily driver is still a Moccamaster and Ode2.

I have both of those, replaced the Moccamaster with a Fellow Aiden about 6 months ago. The Aiden makes objectively better coffee but I still have the Moccamaster in storage for when something goes wrong with the Aiden. Tons of tech in that brewer. Luckily Fellow has a great warranty policy.

 

[Team4LongGun]

Dark roast has less caffeine. More heat exposure = decreased caffeine from what I understand.

Never knew that! Well, I don't know much about coffee other than I prefer the bold taste, hence my grinder recommendation.
I still put a touch of sugar and creamer in so it ends up normal.

 

[millerstone]

Caffeine is relatively heat stable, there might be slightly less caffeine in dark roast but the real reason everyone thinks light roast has more caffeine is the way they measure coffee before brewing. Light roast beans are denser, so if you're using volumetric measuring (scoops etc.) you'll physically get more coffee. If you measure your coffee by weight (which you should do anyway) you'll get about the same strength coffee whether it's light or dark.

 

[atmat]

I have both of those, replaced the Moccamaster with a Fellow Aiden about 6 months ago. The Aiden makes objectively better coffee but I still have the Moccamaster in storage for when something goes wrong with the Aiden. Tons of tech in that brewer. Luckily Fellow has a great warranty policy.

I’ve played with the Aiden a bit and like it a lot. I may end up owning one soon.

My concern is longevity/repairability for cost. Sure, you get a 2-3 year warranty, which is great.

Where Moccamaster excels is in repairability and longevity. Last forever, but super cheap/easy parts to replace if it breaks.

Most people dropping >$350 for a drip machine would be disappointed for it to not last 5 years, for example.

 

[millerstone]

I’ve played with the Aiden a bit and like it a lot. I may end up owning one soon.

My concern is longevity/repairability for cost. Sure, you get a 2-3 year warranty, which is great.

Where Moccamaster excels is in repairability and longevity. Last forever, but super cheap/easy parts to replace if it breaks.

Most people dropping >$350 for a drip machine would be disappointed for it to not last 5 years, for example.

Yeah that's fair. I'm just banking on the fact that the Aiden won't last through it's warranty and will be replaced. Seem to be quite a few issues reported already. As with anything Fellow, I'm sure Gen 2 will be much more robust. The coffee you get with the Aiden, especially smaller volume brews, is unreal. I love being able to change temperatures, bloom time, draw down time and pulse numbers to match the coffee I'm brewing. An 85C dark roast brew makes a tasty cup and I usually hate dark roast.

 

[renagde]

For those brewing with a Moccamaster, use a super coarse grind. Think cornmeal or courser. Also I always let it bloom, close off the water flow to carafe until the filter is completely filled with water. Then open up the water flow the whole way. You can even gently agitate the beans while the water flow is off. Get's it very close to a pour over quality pot of coffee.

 

[ColPenguin]

Considering I drink coffee by the pot I don’t think a French press would serve me well. I do like coffee out of a French press though.

Bodum makes a 1.5 liter french press, is that not enough? I pull out the 1.5l model whenever we have guests staying at our house.

Baratza burr grinder and Bodum 3-cup french press is the daily driver.

 

[tdhanses]

Dark roast has less caffeine. More heat exposure = decreased caffeine from what I understand.

I could careless about the caffeine, I just want to taste the full flavor of coffee and to get that you need a dark roast.

Light roast equals dirty water.

 

[atmat]

I could careless about the caffeine, I just want to taste the full flavor of coffee and to get that you need a dark roast.

Light roast equals dirty water.

Most people report tasting more flavors from light roasts than dark roasts. There’s more nuance and complexity to them, in general.

Dark roasts tend to be “overwhelming” to people’s tastes buds.

Do you drink with cream and sugar?

 

[Uncle Goonie]

Buratza burr grinder and a French press but I find myself using the wife's Nespresso more and more, makes a very good cup very fast. At work we have the restaurant style Bunns in 2 and 3 burner...they put the caffeine in the cup but that's about it, if the grind is too coarse it's tea and if it's too fine it'll spill over.

 

[Bluumoon]

I could careless about the caffeine, I just want to taste the full flavor of coffee and to get that you need a dark roast.

Light roast equals dirty water.

I’m absolutely spoiled w the coffee I get, they roast on Wednesday and ship on Thurs. Lack of flavor/nuance isn’t an issue. Single origin (mostly African) light roast is where I’ve landed. Problem is if the discount ever goes away that sh*t is expensive. I think I’m at around $105 for 5lbs shipped, used to be $80.

 

[LostArra]

I’m absolutely spoiled w the coffee I get, they roast on Wednesday and ship on Thurs. Lack of flavor/nuance isn’t an issue. Single origin (mostly African) light roast is where I’ve landed. Problem is if the discount ever goes away that sh*t is expensive. I think I’m at around $105 for 5lbs shipped, used to be $80.

Give home roasting a try.
It's simple, saves money and coffee is guaranteed fresh.
It takes me about 40 minutes to roast coffee for 10 days in a West Bend Poppery II.

 

[Davyalabama]

I'm just not a grind kind of fellow. I'll stick with folgers from Costco, plus the Kirkland brand bold, mix together. Run it through an old Bunn that was in a house we bought, the Bunn is just the 10 cup glass carafe.

 

[bradmacmt]

Love 'em or hate 'em Starbucks and their char-roasted coffee and $10 drinks led the way.

Starbucks is a place where people who don't like coffee can get their liquid candy bar...

Aside- "if you can learn to enjoy black coffee you'll never be disappointed in life."

 

[Jskaanland]

Tough ask for any drip coffee maker. You probably won't get it equal to the aero press or chemex.

I know but I had expected a lot more out of the Moccamaster. We have some good friends we stayed with that had a similar unit. I felt like theirs produced better coffee.

I’m absolutely spoiled w the coffee I get, they roast on Wednesday and ship on Thurs. Lack of flavor/nuance isn’t an issue. Single origin (mostly African) light roast is where I’ve landed. Problem is if the discount ever goes away that sh*t is expensive. I think I’m at around $105 for 5lbs shipped, used to be $80.

We buy from a place called GoBena and we love it. We had friends that had an adoption fundraiser (lifesong) setup through them, so a portion of the cost went to help them.

Ethiopian Yirgacheffe - Gobena Coffee

Our Ethiopian Yirgacheffe Light Roast is medium-bodied with a smooth, soft mouth feel. The brightness of this coffee, with fruity notes and hints of nuttiness, is sure to provide a flavorful cup that you'll love.

gobena.coffee

 

[DapperDan]

Starbucks is a place where people who don't like coffee can get their liquid candy bar...

Aside- "if you can learn to enjoy black coffee you'll never be disappointed in life."

Starbucks coffee is disgusting…. But not as disgusting as their political values.


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[DapperDan]

I’m absolutely spoiled w the coffee I get, they roast on Wednesday and ship on Thurs. Lack of flavor/nuance isn’t an issue. Single origin (mostly African) light roast is where I’ve landed. Problem is if the discount ever goes away that sh*t is expensive. I think I’m at around $105 for 5lbs shipped, used to be $80.

And I thought I was spending money at $70 per 5 pounds. I order from blackout coffee company based in Florida. Their signature blends are ok but their partner roasts are really nice.


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[Sam Colt]

Just bought a new Gaggia Accademia to replace the 10 year old one. The retired unit has made over 10,000 coffee drinks over its lifetime. We’re enjoying the touch screen and programmable functions a lot.

I have a Baratza Vario+ and Gaggia Classic at the hunting cabin for when we’re “roughing it” and want to go hands on.

The best purchase ever in my coffee adventure is a Hottop KN-8828B roaster. We buy green beans in bulk and then I develop a roast profile for each type. Nothing lets you dial in the flavor profile of a single origin bean like a programmable roaster. I can make an Ethiopian Harrar burst with blueberry, or a Kauai Acaia pop with mocha and citrus. It’s almost a sin to add milk to some of these roasts.

People with OCD should stay away from coffee!

 

[LostArra]

The best purchase ever in my coffee adventure is a Hottop KN-8828B roaster. We buy green beans in bulk and then I develop a roast profile for each type. Nothing lets you dial in the flavor profile of a single origin bean like a programmable roaster. I can make an Ethiopian Harrar burst with blueberry, or a Kauai Acaia pop with mocha and citrus. It’s almost a sin to add milk to some of these roasts.

People with OCD should stay away from coffee!

I'm holding out for an Aillio Bullet at a yard sale.

 

[tdhanses]

Most people report tasting more flavors from light roasts than dark roasts. There’s more nuance and complexity to them, in general.

Dark roasts tend to be “overwhelming” to people’s tastes buds.

Do you drink with cream and sugar?

Nope, black and strong is they way I like it.