CO OTC- going away?

[cclj03]

Talk is cheap. There's no doubt that if residents were willing to pay non-resident prices that the state would accept that and allow what ever terms were necessary to collect.

Simple fact is there's not the support to raise prices even minimally across the spectrum of resident sportsmen let alone a 10x increase. Sure you might consider it but would you really consider pushing your neighbors out by the pricing tags above what they value the experience?

Colorado's real problems begin inside the state boundaries. Pointing to a non-resident problem is simply wishing the complex problems facing Colorado could be fixed with a few less tags. You be way better served to focus on population shifts and political policy that restrict residents than lashing out at those that share your common interests.







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I don’t see this as lashing out… someone has to fund conservation, and if we cut the allowable tags for non-residents, it makes sense that residents would pick up the slack.

 

[Coveyleader]

All this waste of energy for the opportunity at a raghorn. I mean seriously, think about it.

 

[cclj03]

All this waste of energy for the opportunity at a raghorn. I mean seriously, think about it.

Agree to disagree. I love hunting and any time I can be out hunting elk I’m happy. My raghorns have kept my freezer full between higher quality hunts.

 

[fatlander]

Wouldn’t it be nice if it were that simple??

Nothing worth doing is easy.

It is simple if you really know that many guys that want to see change. It’s not easy, but it’s simple. Start organizing them and lobby. Hunters for Access is looking to stand up chapters anywhere there are guys willing to do the work.

Do the work.


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[Okhotnik]

It’s not just Newburg, it’s all these guys constantly pushing “content” so they can make a living off hunting.

Just remember that content isn’t free. Your the product that’s being sold - so use code “Randy” to save 20%.

monetizing public resources is just wrong

 

[Coveyleader]

Agree to disagree. I love hunting and any time I can be out hunting elk I’m happy. My raghorns have kept my freezer full between higher quality hunts.

So do I, trust me, I have, and continue to shoot my fair share of cows and raghorns. Seriously, residents should always be taken care of, to think otherwise is simply absurd. Sadly, the CPW has already shrunk the playing field for OTC units. The writing is on the wall which way we're going good, bad or indifferent. The positive, we residents live here year around, CO is still a great place. I couldn't imagine waking up every day in more than 90 percent of the states the other direction.

 

[LongWayAround]

Then lobby for an increase and get the ballot box biology bullshit out of your state.


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I don't see how you think those two things are linked?

 

[fatlander]

I don't see how you think those two things are linked?

More money, more involvement, more bargaining power. Complaining on the internet does nothing.

Coloradans and sportsmen across the country would all be better served to rally their inner circles and get involved. Spend more money on conservation and less on gear. Work on what you can directly affect with your efforts and dollars.

Attend wildlife meetings. Educate yourselves on the science and have informed conversations.


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[WV Mountaineer]

I, and I think the vast majority of resident OTC guys I know, would happily pay 10x the current cost of an OTC tag to limit the number of nonresidents and keep the tags OTC for us.

Yep, if I lived there I would too. You guys got it bad in CO. They sold the resident out long ago.

 

[Coveyleader]

Yep, if I lived there I would too. You guys got it bad in CO. They sold the resident out long ago.

All I have to say on that is "Sure Jan"

 

[Langehans]

Of course it will.

 

[Stalker69]

Cow Elk are Mommies Too

Yea, but Colorado is pro abortion. So you could use that as an argument. Lol

 

[chanson_roland]

FWIW, I just listened to the CBA Podcast #32 on my ruck this morning. Apparently, at least one CBA member will pitch a proposal to both reduce NR OTC licenses and increase the NR elk tag cost by $356 to make up the revenue difference.

Others may want to listen to the podcast around minute 28. I could easily have interpreted this wrong, so listen for yourself.

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[MTElkchase]

ol randy will get more secret money and tags to monetize his pimping for out of state hunts

can't believe anyone listens to this fraud anymore

Where is the proof of such action..?

 

[MallardSX2]

 

[mooster]

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and where NR's typically aren't hunting on Federal lands they pay taxes for the privilge to hunt!

 

[Okhotnik]

Where is the proof of such action..?

Ask AZ fish and game. At first good ol Randy denied it then someone posted an email from them to prove Randy lied. Of course if you bring it up on khhunt talk you are immediately banned. lol

 

[RyanT26]

Ask AZ fish and game. At first good ol Randy denied it then someone posted an email from them to prove Randy lied. Of course if you bring it up on khhunt talk you are immediately banned. lol

You just have to remember he was doing it for the good of hunting and to help you out.
Look how much better the hunting in Arizona is now. Lol

 

[LongWayAround]

Where is the proof of such action..?

I believe he admitted it on here a couple years ago. You might be able to search his posts.

Anywho, "influencers" get kick-backs from states to "promote" their opportunities. After it started to gain traction, Randy posted that he had discontinued the agreement or whatever. See also: The Hunting Public. It's not a new phenomenon. In the past it was magazines, now it is videos.

I may be mistaken but I believe it was on this site at one point.

 

[11boo]

FWIW, I just listened to the CBA Podcast #32 on my ruck this morning. Apparently, at least one CBA member will pitch a proposal to both reduce NR OTC licenses and increase the NR elk tag cost by $356 to make up the revenue difference.

Others may want to listen to the podcast around minute 28. I could easily have interpreted this wrong, so listen for yourself.

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I listened and that is exactly what he is pushing.
We are the cheapest NR tag, if he is correct. Raising it 356 and reducing NR tags is a big change, if it ever happens.