Climate change...deer numbers

[Blackcats06]

Drought is the problem.

 

[Andrew12gauge]

Drought is the problem.

You mean that period we have every summer in the high desert environs throughout the west where it doesn’t rain? The majority of drought seems to be nothing more than a climate change buzzword at this point. Take last winter for example, the headline in our local paper read “Idaho sees record snowpack, experts warn of impending drought”


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[Blackcats06]

You mean that period we have every summer in the high desert environs throughout the west where it doesn’t rain? The majority of drought seems to be nothing more than a climate change buzzword at this point. Take last winter for example, the headline in our local paper read “Idaho sees record snowpack, experts warn of impending drought”


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Not every year. Look at the wet years in the 80s. Talking specifically az, it was in a wet cycle. Because of that unit 4a/b had 2500 deer tags. Now it has 350.

 

[omicron1792]

The “climate change” has been a boon for whitetail deer. More habitat. More food.

Has been a boon for world hunger too. Way more people die of cold than hot.

 

[Mag_7s]

@robby denning , thank you for your last show, Mule deer on the edge. This is exactly the information I have been waiting to learn.

 

[robby denning]

@robby denning , thank you for your last show, Mule deer on the edge. This is exactly the information I have been waiting to learn.

hey my man, you are welcome! appreciate you listening in

 

[S.Clancy]

You mean that period we have every summer in the high desert environs throughout the west where it doesn’t rain? The majority of drought seems to be nothing more than a climate change buzzword at this point. Take last winter for example, the headline in our local paper read “Idaho sees record snowpack, experts warn of impending drought”


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I would suggest you look at the difference in
30-yr trends for moisture in the west. Snotel has a good comparison tool for their sites as they just switched from a 1980-2010 30-yr average to 1990-2020. @robby denning who is the member that works for NRCS snotel? They did a podcast on it a while back I believe

 

[robby denning]

I would suggest you look at the difference in
30-yr trends for moisture in the west. Snotel has a good comparison tool for their sites as they just switched from a 1980-2010 30-yr average to 1990-2020. @robby denning who is the member that works for NRCS snotel? They did a podcast on it a while back I believe

@Josh Boyd
He’s been on. Few times. He’s of our Rokstaff too

 

[Josh Boyd]

@Josh Boyd
He’s been on. Few times. He’s of our Rokstaff too

Just to clarify...I work for the U.S. Forest Service but collect snow data for the NRCS as a snow cooperator. Both are under the USDA but have different missions.

The Snotel data go back into the 1960's in some areas, but the earliest manual measured Snow Courses have data from the 1920's. One of the sites I measure was started in 1938. It's a great resource for looking at historic winter trends.

 

[mmenart]

My understanding is that winter habitat is the main limiting factor in mule deer herd projections for most western states.. I could be wrong, though, haven't researched in a while.

 

[Mag_7s]

My understanding is that winter habitat is the main limiting factor in mule deer herd projections for most western states.. I could be wrong, though, haven't researched in a while.

I believe the school of thought now is summer range and nutritional load being of more significance. While winter range is very important, the the amount of body fat gained from summer range are what really help these animals get through the winter and produce strong and healthy offspring. This, in a nutshell is how I am interpreting the new science anyway.

 

[Fujicon]

From the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration:

 

[Pony Soldier]

That looks a lot closer to reality. This weekend I have seen more deer dead on I-90. Similar to the 1970s.

Now if we could just get the deer to move out of town.

 

[manitou1]

Trump caused it... no?

Sounds like they are pushing an agenda to me.

If anything, according to "their" claims of global warming, milder winters and more vegetation would do nothing but enhance deer survivability.