stumblinhorse
FNG
Not wanting to completely derail any other topics I am starting this thread. Not sure what to name the thread, but this is named how I see the issue.
I think that it is more important to ensure that you have everything that legally allows you to self rescue yourself from inclement weather during hunting. Obviously we all know that sometimes there is nothing you can do and God is gonna call you home. But where are people willingly to draw the line for survival. I will carry more items with me that allow for self rescue and no items that are not allowed. So in this case the item that caused a dust up is fire starting items when fires are banned. FS and BLM will not cut you any slack if you start a fire during fire restrictions. Obviously, with all the people hitting the SOS on electronics today, there is a pretty loose consensus on “life threatening”. And that seems to make people believe they can do and go wherever they want.
So my simple premise is that if I am responsible for myself out in the wilderness during a time that fire is banned, I am not going to rely upon fire to save myself. And since I will have to carry other items that make me more able to survive, meaning more weight, I am not carrying anything to make a fire.
Is this the only line that people are gonna cross that is fine, but my comment is where you draw the line? If you are willing to simply have a fire, why not be willing to take an atv back into the woods to save yourself? Why not trespass to make it easier to a road? Why not do whatever? And do you do something full willing to turn yourself in after for any law you broke? Or your assumption is you did it and you didn’t get caught so no harm no foul?
I will not be surprised if I am alone in this. I am just wired that way. I am not willing to be lazy or unprepared. I do a whole lot of things others don’t do because I would rather deal up front and not after. But this is not something I care what others do. I will say it again, that I have said before, I have literally seen 100’s if not a thousand violations of hunting laws in my lifetime. I have only called a warden 2 times, first was a rifle poached bull during archery and later for someone being completely belligerent about being in a 4 point draw unit with an OTC license. Never got a call back, so decided I won’t call CPW anymore for any offenses. So in short I don’t care what anyone else does out there.
I think that it is more important to ensure that you have everything that legally allows you to self rescue yourself from inclement weather during hunting. Obviously we all know that sometimes there is nothing you can do and God is gonna call you home. But where are people willingly to draw the line for survival. I will carry more items with me that allow for self rescue and no items that are not allowed. So in this case the item that caused a dust up is fire starting items when fires are banned. FS and BLM will not cut you any slack if you start a fire during fire restrictions. Obviously, with all the people hitting the SOS on electronics today, there is a pretty loose consensus on “life threatening”. And that seems to make people believe they can do and go wherever they want.
So my simple premise is that if I am responsible for myself out in the wilderness during a time that fire is banned, I am not going to rely upon fire to save myself. And since I will have to carry other items that make me more able to survive, meaning more weight, I am not carrying anything to make a fire.
Is this the only line that people are gonna cross that is fine, but my comment is where you draw the line? If you are willing to simply have a fire, why not be willing to take an atv back into the woods to save yourself? Why not trespass to make it easier to a road? Why not do whatever? And do you do something full willing to turn yourself in after for any law you broke? Or your assumption is you did it and you didn’t get caught so no harm no foul?
I will not be surprised if I am alone in this. I am just wired that way. I am not willing to be lazy or unprepared. I do a whole lot of things others don’t do because I would rather deal up front and not after. But this is not something I care what others do. I will say it again, that I have said before, I have literally seen 100’s if not a thousand violations of hunting laws in my lifetime. I have only called a warden 2 times, first was a rifle poached bull during archery and later for someone being completely belligerent about being in a 4 point draw unit with an OTC license. Never got a call back, so decided I won’t call CPW anymore for any offenses. So in short I don’t care what anyone else does out there.