What lies have I bought into? Bonus points for actual peer-reviewed literature in reputable journals as opposed to high-budget influencer videos.Dutch Henry-
You've bought into all the lies. There's nothing in plants that is required for the human body that we can't get from meat. Fiber is completely unnecessary and can be harmful. Grains are especially bad. How about you try quitting all corn, wheat, and any other grains for a month? I bet you'll see some improvements.
That we need to eat plants. I've eaten nothing but meat for over two years and have never been healthier.What lies have I bought into? Bonus points for actual peer-reviewed literature in reputable journals as opposed to high-budget influencer videos.
Those same reputable journals that tell ya how good the ol boosters are?What lies have I bought into? Bonus points for actual peer-reviewed literature in reputable journals as opposed to high-budget influencer videos.
Really with the carnivore diet? Next will it be a Tide Pod challenge?
If you're feeling better on the carnivore diet, it's only a sign that the nutrition plan you left it for was a sad, sad piece of dogs**t. It's like a crack addict switching to cocaine because cocaine is, like, soooo much healthier. Stay on Carnivore for long and you're basically writing a blank check for cardiovascular disease and nutritional deficiencies. And the complete and total absence of fiber is just setting you up for colon cancer, digestive ailments, and other issues. There is zero evidence it is healthy...except perhaps anecdotal accounts from social media influencers. Never in the entire history of mankind, until Joe Rogan's podcast, have people lived on a meat-only diet. Even early man living in the Arctic relied heavily on plant-based nutrition and seasonal berries…
It's not even a controversy. Look at literally any archaeological record at all and you will find ample, overwhelming evidence of plant-based diets. Read the genetic analysis of the intestinal contents of well-preserved prehistoric bodies (like Otzi the Iceman) and you will find they ate multiple varieties of grains, vegetables, fruits, and wild berries. Even Inuits, Yup'ik and Aleuts gathered and preserved crowberries, cloudberries, cranberries, fireweed, grasses, numerous tubers, and seaweed. They also ate the partially-digested contents from the rumen of caribou, moose, and game animals. One of the earliest technologies developed, alongside knapped points, were containers. Some were used for cooking, but many were used for storing plants and plant products for the winter.This diatribe is absurdly stupid and I mean that technically. The idea that early nomadic man lived on a plant based diet is ridiculous. Outside of berries and fruit there’s very little wild vegetation that we’re capable of digesting. Then berries and fruit are only available for a few months out of the year. I guess they fasted for months at a time?
This is literally the thesis of the Carnivore diet. The idea isn't to eat only ribeye for the rest of your life, it's to cut out everything from your diet but 1 or 2 things and then add things back into your diet 1 at a time very slowly. Experimenting with what does or doesn't work for you. Red meat is simply the only good option for this experiment. Yes, some people find that they're best staying on only red meat, but that's rare. It's also not surprising that for some people a strict carnivore diet isn't the best option.What might be better than diving right into Carnivore? First, give up all of the food that are the product of our post WWII industrial capacity and that were introduced into our food systems before we knew they were bad for us. For two to four weeks, try:
No Doritos, flamin hot cheetos, chips, pretzels.
No pasta. No refined grain products. No bread (unless it's 100% whole grain...most is not).
No high starch vegetables like white potatoes.
No soda. No fruit juice. No sugar sweetened beverages.
No candy. No cake. No donuts. No ice cream. No Clif bars.
No meats with fillers and preservatives, like most hot dogs, sausages, and bologna.
No beer. No highballs. Limited if any booze.
I can guarantee you you will experience mental clarity. You will drop extra lbs. You will feel a night and day difference. You will poop like friggin dinosaur. Want to take it farther? Try a modified keto diet. Try the Mediterranean diet. Try intermittent fasting. Or, if you're curious, try a short run at Carnivore as long as you intend to leave it.
Plants and fruits will give you things you need, like a lot of bioavailable Vitamin C (a potent antioxidant), multiple types of dietary fiber (does all sorts of good things including cancer prevention and blocking your liver from synthesisizing new LDL), flavonoids (another potent antioxidant that also reduces risk of heart disease), quercetin (which lowers BP), omega-6 fatty acids, and others.
I agree with you 100% on processed food. And on the difficulty presented by the lack of large sample sizes. (A challenge that impacts a lot of health studies.)This is literally the thesis of the Carnivore diet. The idea isn't to eat only ribeye for the rest of your life, it's to cut out everything from your diet but 1 or 2 things and then add things back into your diet 1 at a time very slowly. Experimenting with what does or doesn't work for you. Red meat is simply the only good option for this experiment. Yes, some people find that they're best staying on only red meat, but that's rare. It's also not surprising that for some people a strict carnivore diet isn't the best option.
The biggest problem with studying diets is the lack of a controlled sample. To the instances you mentioned earlier there's no way of knowing how strict they were to a carnivore diet. That goes to anyone on any diet. The only way to study this is going to be mass sample sizes.
The one thing we do know, to your earlier point, it's in all likelihood much better for you than a diet of modern processed food.
Good question. I've had the exact same issue. Well, not necessarily feeling hungry, but in keeping my fat ratio high enough when eating wild game. (I eat a carnivore diet but also keto, which for me means at least 75% of my calories from fat)Sorry to interrupt the argument but I’ve got a question for the long term carnivore guys.
What do you do to get fat when eating deer or elk? No matter how much oil or tallow I cook my venison in I always feel hungry not long after dinner from lack of fat. The only conclusion I’ve come up with lately is I just eat a bunch of bacon with my deer/elk steaks. Seems kind of counter productive lol
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Maybe I missed it, but what have you seen as far as instances in men's testosterone levels and specifically SHBG taking a nosedive on the carnivore diet. If true, It's contrary to what we've been lead to beleive as far as high protein/high fat diets. Any insight?I agree with you 100% on processed food. And on the difficulty presented by the lack of large sample sizes. (A challenge that impacts a lot of health studies.)
Most diets have some sort of elimination factor. With carnivore, my clinical and scientific objections are with cutting out important macronutrients and food groups like plants, fruits, legumes, grains, nuts, and seeds. By the same token, I think vegan diets are...unnatural.
It's a good question. The quickest way I can think of explaining it is this: The common view of fat is that it's an inert substance whose job is to store energy. However, that's only part of the story. Fat/adipose tissue has properties that enable it to act like an endocrine organ (even if it isn't strictly a part of your endocrine system). In other words, fat synthesizes and secretes several hormones. In turn, these hormones end up mediating all sorts of metabolic processes, including how you respond to insulin, your inflammatory process, and even sex hormones. To your point, they appear to lower serum concentrations of sex-hormone binding globulin (SHBG). For our purposes here, there are three sources of fat: dietary fat, the subcutaneous fat under your skin, and visceral fat (belly fat) surrounding your abdominal organs/your core.Maybe I missed it, but what have you seen as far as instances in men's testosterone levels and specifically SHBG taking a nosedive on the carnivore diet. If true, It's contrary to what we've been lead to beleive as far as high protein/high fat diets. Any insight?