Can we please talk about the NL 32 coming out!

[SecretSpot]

Nl 32s are available for presale, and after reading bird forums months prior this was to be somewhat expected. I have pursosely held off Swarovski EL 32s awaiting this release. What do you guys think, all hype? The specs are good, not quite what was expected as far as field of view but still great to say the least.. Who's else has to make expensive decisions?

 

[Brianb3]

Not sure 32s would be my jam but I’m looking at the 12x42s over the 12x50 ELS. Any thoughts.

They have plans for 15s?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[tdot]

With a decrease in the FOV from my 8x32EL, I don't see a reason to change.

Edit - this was wrong info.

 

[SomeJackassOnAForum]

With a decrease in the FOV from my 8x32EL, I don't see a reason to change.

8x32 NL FOV is wider than an 8x32 EL...

 

[slick]

8x32 NL 150m

8x32 EL 141m


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[tdot]

Hmmmm. The site I looked at previously had the NL FOV listed as less then 400', I stopped looking at that point. Might have to investigate further. Thanks for the correction.

 

[SecretSpot]

Not sure 32s would be my jam but I’m looking at the 12x42s over the 12x50 ELS. Any thoughts.

They have plans for 15s?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

As far as I know 15 aren't possible, as the prisms wouldn't fit in them, the reason 15s never became a reality in the EL line.

I have 12x50s and they are sweet, but if I did it again and money wasn't an issue I'd just go the NL 12x42 for the weight savings and so I hear, better image. But to add I only paid 2k for my EL SV field pro 12x50s with a stud, easy decision at that price

 

[SecretSpot]

8x32 NL FOV is wider than an 8x32 EL...

This brings the Zeiss victory sf 8x32 into play with a 465ft FOV. however not field flattened (edges are pin cushioned), so the true useable field of view is more in the range the new NL 8x32 but can be had for a decent deal with this new release. So what do you do, 8x32 EL, NL, or Victory SF?

 

[handwerk]

Some good info:

NL Pure 8x32 and NL Pure 10x32!

As a long-time owner/user of the FL8x32, i was very interested in seeing what Zeiss came up with (eventually) as the successor, particularly after so many apparent delays. Now, Swarovski have done the same, replacing a popular but ageing 8x32 - and both companies seem to have produced what, in...

www.birdforum.net

 

[Aginor]

Not sure 32s would be my jam but I’m looking at the 12x42s over the 12x50 ELS. Any thoughts.

They have plans for 15s?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I’ve got the 12x42s and love them so far. I was rocking Vortex Diamondbacks 8x32s before them and the difference is as significant as you would expect for 10x the cost

 

[307]

I’ve got the 12x42s and love them so far. I was rocking Vortex Diamondbacks 8x32s before them and the difference is as significant as you would expect for 1,000x the cost

You paid $200,000 for your NL's???

I think you should have called S&S archery...

 

[Spiral Horn]

The Zeiss SF 10x32s are pretty spectacular. I have the 10x42s and was able to compare them side-by-side. They were a bit longer than I expected, but very slim and lightweight. They truly handle like a dream, no fatigue whatsoever. Ergonomics were right on target - all were an exceptional scaled-down carbon copy of the 42mm. The view is spectacular - very bright and full of detailed contrast. To my eyes they seem to be at the very edge of usable FOV. In fact, when panning there was a bit of blackout (none on static view). My 42s still offer a brighter and more immersive view without blackouts. But the SFs 32mm will likely outperform many mid-grade 42mms.

The NLs are kind of an engineering marvel that aren’t all that easy to describe. I’ve had several sessions with the 42mms head-to-head with my SFs. They were not an easy comparison because everything, including the view, is very different. The NL FOV is so expansive that I found myself continually changing eye position and playing with the diopter a lot. Since SWs have a yellow-green bias (to my eyes) the spring colors really popped, enjoyed it a lot. If I had to call winners (all my subjective observations) - brightness = dead heat, maybe very slight to NL (but didn’t view at dusk); colors = NL (but that might be the yellow/green bias); depth of field = dead heat; resolution = very slight, SF (but I may just be more comfortable with them); immersive view = to me the SF is an easier view to just fully dive in and enjoy; ergonomics = while the shape engineering of the NL is marvelous, I still prefer the SF - they simply handle better for me with a lot less fatigue. Even in fairly short sessions the NLs began to feel heavy (they are). Now with all that being said, this was from just a few sessions with the NLs and I’d probably get more used to them over time. Don’t know if the 32mms will play the same way, we’ll just have to wait and see.

 

[Aginor]

You paid $200,000 for your NL's???

I think you should have called S&S archery...

Nice catch fixed it


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[Brush Buster]

The 8x32 NL looks very nice. But at that size and price I would also be interested in looking at the 8x32 SFs. I’ve only heard great things about them. It would sure be nice if Leica got in the game with some noctivid 32s.... And of course ELs are still no slouch and can be had for a lot less money. I do think 8x32s of some flavor would be a good alternative from my 10x42s in some situations. It’s a good time to be a glass junkie

 

[SecretSpot]

I got a pair of 8x32 victory sf. Not very impressed...

 

[Spiral Horn]

I got a pair of 8x32 victory sf. Not very impressed...

Certain many here would like to know specifics

 

[B_Reynolds_AK]

I had the 8x32 SF’s. I thought they were very good. The handling and focus was fantastic. However the view, imo, was not quite so spectacular as the NL 32’s, which seem to have this brilliance to the view that made the SF’s feel a little dull. Also the color balance of the SF’s showed a bit too much green for me. The NL’s seemed more neutral. The SF’s are certainly at the top of the Alpha 32’s along with the NL’s though.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[Trial153]

I am interested . I have 8x32 ELs which have slowly become my favorite glass.

I been really thinking of thinning my optics herd, 8x, 10x, 12x and spotter is just to much redundancy at this point to have tied up in all alpha glass

 

[SecretSpot]

The view isnt really something you can put on a tripod and look around the entire image without getting blackouts. The outter 3rd of the view does not resolve like an el, and the field isnt quite as flat as an el. I would describe them as an extension of your eye, the only advantage to the larger field of view is for catching stuff in your peripheral vision and then moving your position so that whatever you are trying to resolve is in center field. This is unlike my els or the nl where I can stay in a fixed position and look around. I've noticed also besides the outter view not resolving more than 90-95% that if I attempt to move my eyes to look at the edges of the view I get kidney beans no matter how carefully I set the eye relief cups and eye peice width. In my opinion they are excellent binos for off hand use. And the only advantage to the FOV is catching movement in the peripheral. I compare it to your natural vision where you are only focused on what you are directly looking at center field. The color and image quality in this inner field is brilliant, bright, and resolved as good as my eye can see. After using them for a week in the field they have grown on me. The size, smoothness of focus and beautiful images feel like an extension of my eye. I've been using my 10x42 els all day while hiking and certainly miss the view of the little victory sfs already.

 

[Spiral Horn]

After spending time with both the SF and NL it all comes down to personal preference and which is a better fit for the conditions they‘ll be used in. With choices like these we live in great times.