Can I Get more Range?

BigWoods

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Well bought a new Black Gold Mountain Lite last week and have been getting things sighted since then. I got my sight tape worked up and so far its proving accurate out to 60 (can't get much further in the winter).

At the default position, my pins are set to 20, 30 & 40. The dual indicators are set on 20 & 40 at home.
I'm sending 510 grain arrows at a bit over 250fps (slow and smooth) giving the 40yds floater a ~92yd max range withe the sight bottomed out. My question being, is there a way I can get more distance out of the sight with my current pin and arrow / speed setup? I've got plenty of room before making vane contact.
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Primary hunting use is eastern whitetail with a side of turkey...maybe black bear too, so the current pin setup in the home position will cover almost all hunting situations. That said, I like to stretch it out for practice so a bit more range would be nice.

As a side note, I came from an Apex Covert slider and was happy to see how much quieter my bow is with the new sight. Evidently the Covert had some play causing buzzing on the shot. Also, the pins on the MBG are downright clean.
 
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You can also adjust the entire housing down to gain some additional yardage. Should be just a single horizontal screw that you can loosen that is right in front of your lowest pin currently.
 
If the sight is bottomed out you are going to have to move your peep and set it all back up to get more range.
Appreciate the info. Yes, the sight is bottomed out in the picture. My peep is set really nicely to my anchor so I don't think I want it that bad.

You can also adjust the entire housing down to gain some additional yardage. Should be just a single horizontal screw that you can loosen that is right in front of your lowest pin currently.

Are you suggesting just sliding down the housing when wanting to play out far? With the numbered markings, I suppose I could do that and accurately reset it after shooting further out. I suppose If I really wanted, I could slide the housing down and set the bottom pin to a further distance (50yds) and that would translate to the slider. Probably won't do that as the pins wouldn't be as useful for hunting, but it may be worth playing with some time.
 
If you have room you can move your pins down in the sight a bit more. You can make a template of your pin gaps before dropping them down. Then reset the spacing based off of that for quicker resight.
 
Quick question. Did you run the wheel adjustment flush or did you move it all the way up before sighting in?
 
What distance did you establish your peep height at?

Reset your peep height for 40yds and you will gain more adjustment (assuming you set it up for 20yds)


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You just need to move your site housing down you have it all the way at the top now you have plenty of room to run it down until you make contact with your Arrow
 
Quick question. Did you run the wheel adjustment flush or did you move it all the way up before sighting in?
dkime - I set the peep at 20yds at the shop since that's their max indoor range. Might make sense to set that for 40 yds since I do most my shooting past that.

Swift - if I moved my housing down, and resighted my pins to 20, 30,& 40, am I right to think that my max adjustment range would remain the same, with the pins all moving up the same amount the housing came down?

My present setup has been pretty intuitive so far with the 20 pin being real close to center.

Really appreciate all the help as I try to understand all the different alignments on a bow!
 
dkime - I set the peep at 20yds at the shop since that's their max indoor range. Might make sense to set that for 40 yds since I do most my shooting past that.

Swift - if I moved my housing down, and resighted my pins to 20, 30,& 40, am I right to think that my max adjustment range would remain the same, with the pins all moving up the same amount the housing came down?

My present setup has been pretty intuitive so far with the 20 pin being real close to center.

Really appreciate all the help as I try to understand all the different alignments on a bow!

Many ways to skin the cat my dude, I use a 30yd zero and I can shoot out to around 110 depending on bow speed. I’m like you and keep my zero pin centered about the housing. On most setups a 30yd zero will only leave you 3-4” high at 20 anyways so it’s pretty negligible.

If you shift your pins up and resight your bow in you will still run into collision issues with your housing at said max distance. I’ve been known to shoot cock vane down at these distances to gain more housing clearance.


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dkime - I set the peep at 20yds at the shop since that's their max indoor range. Might make sense to set that for 40 yds since I do most my shooting past that.

Swift - if I moved my housing down, and resighted my pins to 20, 30,& 40, am I right to think that my max adjustment range would remain the same, with the pins all moving up the same amount the housing came down?

My present setup has been pretty intuitive so far with the 20 pin being real close to center.

Really appreciate all the help as I try to understand all the different alignments on a bow!

Many ways to skin the cat my dude, I use a 30yd zero and I can shoot out to around 110 depending on bow speed. I’m like you and keep my zero pin centered about the housing. On most setups a 30yd zero will only leave you 3-4” high at 20 anyways so it’s pretty negligible.

If you shift your pins up and resight your bow in you will still run into collision issues with your housing at said max distance. I’ve been known to shoot cock vane down at these distances to gain more housing clearance.


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dkime - I set the peep at 20yds at the shop since that's their max indoor range. Might make sense to set that for 40 yds since I do most my shooting past that.

Moving your peep just a tiny bit is your solution.
 
dkime - I set the peep at 20yds at the shop since that's their max indoor range. Might make sense to set that for 40 yds since I do most my shooting past that.

Swift - if I moved my housing down, and resighted my pins to 20, 30,& 40, am I right to think that my max adjustment range would remain the same, with the pins all moving up the same amount the housing came down?

My present setup has been pretty intuitive so far with the 20 pin being real close to center.

Really appreciate all the help as I try to understand all the different alignments on a bow!
I wouldn't even consider moving my peep if it was me. If you move your peep then you move your anchor point. That isn't something that you want to arbitrarily just start moving around.
 
I wouldn't even consider moving my peep if it was me. If you move your peep then you move your anchor point. That isn't something that you want to arbitrarily just start moving around.

No different than what 99% of all FITA and Field archers do each year. Peep height is important to them because it drastically effects their parallax at extremely short distances, while giving them a more comfortable anchor point at longer distances. If you want to shoot long and want to shoot accurately then you need to be able to work into a comfortable and repeatable position. Honestly, moving the peep won’t get you an absolute ton more room on adjustment, but more is better than none in this case.


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I think it's important to understand when I say to move the peep, it's not even a 1/4" probably. Its changing the position to be comfortable and "centered" for lack of a better word at a distance of say 40. Instead of being most comfortable at 20. The tip of the nose will probably be pressed into the string at 20, just right around 40. Doing this also helps people to not fall out of the peep at longer distances because they have to adjust the anchor position to look down through the peep at the lower pins and/or housing. It's very common.
 
I pm'ed you my number call me and I'll walk you through it

After you get him straightened out could you give me a PM and let me know how you walked him through it? I’m always trying to increase my body of knowledge and find better ways!


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As I chew on this, part of me is wondering if there is really any way to get more distance out of this while keeping an indicator on 20yds (which I don't necessarily need, but it's nice to be able to dial from 20-40). I've got the indicator and slider all the way to the top for that 20yd pin and that 92yds for the 40yd pin is all the way to the bottom; maybe with my ~250fps arrows I'm just at the limits of adjustment?

Archery makes such a great mid-winter tinker project! :geek:
 
If it’s strictly for practice you could use the top of your level as a reference point


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