Burris FF 3-9x40mm Drop Eval Q&A

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Anything you can tell us about the rear bag?

Is it also by UM?

It is. I believe Ryan has named it the Jellyfish.


I’ll start a thread as quite a few have asked.

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This is good to see. I’ve had one for nearly 20 years. Never had an issue with it. It often gets replaced with fancier scopes, then when those die or I decide I don’t like them the FFII goes back on until the next shiny object comes along. It has between one and two thousand rounds, while not that many, it is many more than has killed at least four other scopes off the top of my head. It was made in the PI.

Also, I was just looking for a shooting bag to mount on the back of my pack. Had only found the Eberlestock. That light Mollinator looks nice.
 

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I have found the FF II's to be good, too bad they are no longer made. We put a 3-9x40 on my young cousin's X Bolt 308 Win. Last fall while on a mountain goat hunt in the wet snow he dropped his 60 lb pack when stopping for a rest and it tumbled down the mountain about 20 feet. Rifle was strapped to the pack, the bolt handle was actually bent but the gun works well still. The scope was about 2" high and right so we adjusted it back. He has Talley one piece mounts so this thread is a good reminder to take everything apart and make sure the rings are not damaged.

I had a fall on a goat hunt a few years back and the gun went from accurate to mediocre. Turns out I had snapped a base screw on the Talley and didn't know it. Learned my lesson after that and also discontinued using the Talley's after that.
 

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I couldn’t say at all. I have heard the Philippine made ones are decent, but I haven’t used enough to say whether they are similar.

Also, I’ll redo it with NF rings. I fully expect that large shift won’t be there.
I tried to find 1" nightforce rings but I can't find them anywhere. Are they coming out with some or something?
 
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I tried to find 1" nightforce rings but I can't find them anywhere. Are they coming out with some or something?

I am not aware of anything, I believe I had some years ago and presumed they still made them. I got Warne Mountain Tech’s.
 
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I've used those vortex rings before and they are junk. I had similar issues to you. The hardware is inferior quality and stretches excessively I found, which led to the scope coming loose in the rings. Best to stay away from anything vortex I think. Except their scope caps, which are excellent.
 

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I’m really looking forward to seeing this redone with different rings.


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Impressed with this result, looking forward to the retest with the new rings.

Does anyone remember when burris had the "zero lock" screw? it was a screw that you tighten on the errector housing that actually locked in the errector tube.
 

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I’ve had the same Philippines made burris FF2 4.5-42 mm BDC for 20 years and paid about $200. It has held zero incredibly well. I can’t recall the last time I had to re-zero that rifle/scope combo and it sees a fair amount of hard use in the field every year
 
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Form’s post still says, “Also on another scope eval, a base screw broke on a set of PMR rings”. Does anyone know which eval that was and if there a pictures?

Correct. The rings used here are Vortex Pro rings. I also have used PMR’s, with a screw breakage.
 
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Aside from said screw failure, have the PMR's you've seen been good

Yes. Until they aren’t.

The baseline is that it seems to be harder/more prone to failure/lose zero to make bases that use two small screws as reliable and as durable as one large bolt. It can be done, reference the UM Tikka rings. However, even they had issues with movement and screws breaking, and had to modify several things to eliminate it. For picatinny rings there is no functional advantage to deviate from the large, single bolt attachment.
 
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