burning your trash? seriously?

[Tsnider]

the last few days ive seen a few videos on youtube of people talking about their food packing or other stuff thats plastic and saying they throw it in the fire so they dont have any trash? am i the only one that sees that as douchey? plastics release toxic fumes into the air and leave behind residue thats cant be good for any living thing walking through. seems like a small thing but there are a lot of people hunting and if its practice to burn shit then we are talking about hundreds of thousands of plastic bags being burned in some of the most beautiful places. if i drive up the road to Maroon Bells throw plastic in the fire pit at a campground the rangers would lose their shit.

people will carry a 40-70 pound bags up a mountain to hunt but wont carry some empty zip locks back out with them? seems like that makes us look like red neck douche bags. pack it in pack it out.

rant over.

 

[PNWGATOR]

I admit that I often burn my meal wrappers. Guess I'm douchey. I certainly care about the environment, habitat and the game, fish and fowl I pursue. That said, I honestly never give it a second thought. I practice leave no trace and sincerely care about the experience others, hunters or not, have after passing through.

 

[LitenFast]

I agree with the OP, it doesn't weigh nearly what it did full.


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[PathFinder]

This is why we all need to get rid of our guns and start bow hunting exclusively. Firearms contribute to global warming!

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[Backpack Hunter]

As long as it is all burnt I don't give it a thought.

 

[5MilesBack]

This is why we all need to get rid of our guns and start bow hunting exclusively. Firearms contribute to global warming!

A couple years ago I was driving back into town from a hunting outing. I had my headlights on, as I always do when I'm driving. I'm sitting at this stop light and some whackjob woman comes running up to my truck from a few cars back, bangs on my window, and starts yelling at me for having my headlights on........saying I'm "contributing to global warming". I looked back at her and said "Just because it's legal doesn't mean that you should smoke it lady". I couldn't believe that........"headlights contributing to global warming". SMH

Given the single digit temps we're seeing this week, I guess I don't have the headlights on quite enough. But I did let the diesel run the entire time I sat at school waiting for my kids to get out.

 

[Justin Crossley]

As long as it is all burnt I don't give it a thought.

That is pretty much what I think as well. Maybe it's lack of knowledge but I really don't see it as a big deal personally. I do make sure that I have a really hot fire going though if I'm going to burn wrappers and I keep it going hot until everything is completely gone.

 

[Larry Bartlett]

If you're on a2-3 day excursion and dont mind the waste, pack it out. Beyond 4 days and you have quite a stash of burnables. As long as you do a good job burning the debris to ash and removing non-combustibles...what would rather be seen, nothing or trash in the backcountry.

burn it if your style demands its, pack it out if you dont want the minimal debris with odors.

Just FYI, the fumes released from a hot fire burning refuse is so minuscule in comparison to natural release of carbon dioxide and methane in the natural environment that the conversation is scientifically moot. If you're talking a month's worth of refuse then we may have a discussion for argument.

 

[backcountry_hunter]

If you're finding partially burnt garbage all over your rant is valid... if emissions though are your serious concern your car emitted more on the way up to your spot... if you drive a truck you're pretty much a disgusting pig. Tell me burning a plastic bag is awful for the environment when millions of cords and acres of woods sometimes go up the same year in the same wilderness. That ziploc is pretty insignificant.

 

[Tsnider]

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yes i drive a truck. a big lifted shitty gas mileage toyota. all of our weapons and a lot of our gear is manufactured with chemicals that probably arent good for the environment. but what little people can do to help is helping. i do see trash in the back country, never partially burnt but not burnt at all. im not quite sure that a burnt bottle is better because i cant see it on the ground.

 

[realunlucky]

Yep I'm that guy sorry but next year I'm going to be the guy again

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[mtnwrunner]

I admit that I often burn my meal wrappers. Guess I'm douchey. I certainly care about the environment, habitat and the game, fish and fowl I pursue. That said, I honestly never give it a second thought. I practice leave no trace and sincerely care about the experience others, hunters or not, have after passing through.

What I do also^^^^^^^ and I think as long as it is done right, I see no issues at least to me. Hell, I've burnt underwear also.............
One of my brothers burns his toilet paper after he goes so as with most things, it boils down to your own ethics.

Randy

 

[JWP58]

So burning trash = no

Shitting in the woods = yes?

How dare selfish people leave boot tracks, piss spots, poop, CO2 from yer breath.....gah

 

[PWCGray]

foil and cans drive me crazy when people try to burn them and end up leaving a mess in the forest

outside of that, I always burn garbage. It really isn't much, if you're careful when you pack.

think about this for awhile... you pack the garbage out of the mountain, load it in your vehicle, your vehicle burns a little more fuel because now you have extra garbage for your vehicle to carry, then the garbage juices and general bullshit gets all over your gear so you have to do a couple more loads of laundry when you get home, then you get home and put the garbage you packed out and drove 300 miles with into your garbage can, then the garbage man comes and picks it up and puts it in his truck, then he drives another hundred miles to a dump, then the garbage gets covered in some acceptable standard amount of dirt next to some poor guy's house that couldn't afford a lawyer to fight the zoning board's landfill plan, the garbage truck driver drives back to town where he lives, and finally a bunch of bears get habituated to the landfill and some poor fish and game guy has to spend his time mowing them down instead of doing his real job. the whole thing is exhausting, carbon producing... if only i just burnt it

unfortunately garbage sucks, regardless of how it is disposed of.

 

[aion2come]

Ftguides ... that was funny!

 

[muledhunter]

Do you know where aluminum comes from? So essentially every time you burn a beer can you're actually giving back

 

[Tastybearmeat]

I re-package all of my Mt house meals into zip locks so I can burn them up in sheep country. Nothing is left. Folks that just drop their trash and keep walking are the real problem.

 

[justinspicher]

Our forest rangers packed out 750lbs of trash this summer. Not everything burns because a campfire won't get hot enough to melt glass and aluminum foil. I'm not for it or against it, it gives me a job during the summer out in the woods so I can be paid to scout.

 

[Backpack Hunter]

I can't remember the last time I packed in glass that I would consider burning. Those kinds of products make me wonder...who has the energy for that sort of thing?

 

[MontanaMarine]

Do you know where aluminum comes from? So essentially every time you burn a beer can you're actually giving back

You betcha. Just like recreational shooting is actually mining the lead and copper back into the ground........giving back to mother earth......grin