Bull hiss/moo/blow/huff--> What is he saying?

Not sure, but I have seen a bull doing something similar before. It was like he was trying to bugle, but had lost his voice. The sound that came out was a quiet, hoarse, whisper sounding bugle. I was 40 yards away and could barely hear him.
 
How heavily is this area hunted? is there a lot of calling pressure?

I've heard the hiss before several times from one bull towards another.
 
He's the boss tomcat that's all. Just letting the little guy know his place. Classic head, antler, posture dominance display at the end.
Does that taking place in early August when they are all buddying around (there's 6 bulls in this lil pack) mean he is easily grouchy and territorial? Or is that a normal thing?

How heavily is this area hunted? is there a lot of calling pressure?

I've heard the hiss before several times from one bull towards another.
What was the context or what was going on when you heard it? I am very curious what was being communicated, but also am wondering if it offers insight on if this bull is more susceptible to being challenged.

It gets hunted similar to other draw units.
 
Does that taking place in early August when they are all buddying around (there's 6 bulls in this lil pack) mean he is easily grouchy and territorial? Or is that a normal thing?


What was the context or what was going on when you heard it? I am very curious what was being communicated, but also am wondering if it offers insight on if this bull is more susceptible to being challenged.

It gets hunted similar to other draw units.
The hissing seemed more like a challenge to the other bull to f*** off. Same with a spike that came into my cow calling followed by a bull who chased him off and hiss/grunted at him. Ive had this happen to me a few times to my advantage.

I hunt areas that are heavily hunted and elk that are called at alot to where they wont even respond. Makes me feel like this is a similar situation where they dont want to be obvious but get the point across.
 
He is saying I banged ur mom and imma do it again.
Do you know how we can find Mom?

The hissing seemed more like a challenge to the other bull to f*** off. Same with a spike that came into my cow calling followed by a bull who chased him off and hiss/grunted at him. Ive had this happen to me a few times to my advantage.

I hunt areas that are heavily hunted and elk that are called at alot to where they wont even respond. Makes me feel like this is a similar situation where they dont want to be obvious but get the point across.
My interpretation is that it was territorial. I am not too good with elk, so maybe the reason for this is that fact, but I haven't run across any other hunters in the field in this unit or heard hunters. *Caveat! I also haven't heard too many elk so I very well could be too disruptive or not in their hood*
 
Does that taking place in early August when they are all buddying around (there's 6 bulls in this lil pack) mean he is easily grouchy and territorial? Or is that a normal thing?


What was the context or what was going on when you heard it? I am very curious what was being communicated, but also am wondering if it offers insight on if this bull is more susceptible to being challenged.

It gets hunted similar to other draw units.
There is always a Peking order in all family groups regardless of species. Yes this goes on all year long. If you ever been around a grumpy old man that mumbles and huffs about kids. That's what is going on here.

If you know what a slow play is. Incorporate these sounds into that scenario.
Another hint. What you here from the YouTube mafia calling a slow play is not an actual slow play.
 
What is this guy saying?


I think I get a new work computer tomorrow that has a program to edit videos together, so I might see if I can make these short clips into one.
When they’re too little to bugle, that’s the sound they make. Go look for his daddy that’s gone through puberty.
 
When they’re too little to bugle, that’s the sound they make. Go look for his daddy that’s gone through puberty.

So, when I hear a bugle it's a mature elk for certain as long as it's not a hunter?

Do the immature bulls sound like cows until after they go through puberty?
 
Sometimes cows make awesome four note bugles too, sound just like Primos latex bugles. I've watched a few do it.. Maybe identifying as...
 
I am a bad mofo and if you stick around next month trying to steal one of my ladies you are going to be taught a lesson son 🤣
 
When they’re too little to bugle, that’s the sound they make. Go look for his daddy that’s gone through puberty.His daddy was coimg at the end of the 3rd video. Did you see that one? Not the smaller one in the back left, but back right a head shake shows dad's coming..
 
All bulls bugle, even the spikes.
Later in rut a big bull can sound like a spike if he's hoarse from bugling all rut.
Some big bulls will only let out a small bugle if it is a hard hunted area, they know it calls in hunters too.
 
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