Broadhead for Elk

[wapitibob]

I mentioned NAP on the first page.
Spitfire 125, 3 blade at 1 1/2 dia is the perfect head for me and Elk. More blood and faster kills than the multitude of fixed heads I have used; noticeably so. Personally, I'm not a standard 2 blade fan, nor do I want more than 1 1/2" on a 3 blade. I did kill a bull with the Carbon Express F-15 2 blade that had the dual bleeders. It did exactly as advertised and cut those flaps.

I don't pick a head to "improve my odds on bad shots" that others do. If I hit the front leg or scapula, the chances of a recovery are close to zero regardless of my broadhead choice. I want a fixed head in the center of the lungs. I prefer it stay there vs stopping on the off side leg, which it has a tendency to do. I prefer a mechanical pass thru, which all but one have done. Ribs are not a problem for any head I've used.

Bottom line, put YOUR preferred head into or thru the center of the lungs and you'll watch him fall. Liver or leg, not so much.

 

[Bails-UK]

Elk are a big Animal, i'd like to use mechanicals, just not on big game, there's some big bones in an Elk that could easily break a mechanical head and don't feel it's worth the risk.

 

[sharpshooter269]

I shot my first elk with a bow last year. Used a G5 t3 for the last time. I got the elk but not a whole lot of penetration. He only went 40 yards thank God. Because there was no blood trail. The shot was 25 yards. Standing broadside. Perfect 10 ringed him. Now I am only pulling 65 pounds. Sum one pulling 70 to 80 mite be a different story.. It was a heavy arrow to. Around 440 grains

No reason that shouldn't have gone thru the elk if it was a 10 ringer.

 

[Laelkhunter]

No reason that shouldn't have gone thru the elk if it was a 10 ringer.

I agree, and still want to know (from my original post #28) where the poster for reply #27 hit the Elk. That's pretty decent performance that he only went 40 yards.

 

[HOT ROD]

The elk was hit rite behind the front shoulder. Broke a rib going in. And busted the of rib. But didn't go through the hide.....................

 

[Laelkhunter]

Sounds like decent performance to me. I know that a pass-through is usually preferred, but a short tracking job (I consider 40 yards a short tracking job) is perfect, and recovering the game is very important (probably MOST important), and you got that too.

 

[MallardSX2]

Muzzy 4 blade 90Gr. Been shooting them for a long time. This is a great broadhead.

 

[JRHunter67]

Killed my first bull last year with the swhacker 2 blade 2" 100 grain with no problem! But going to use the swhacker 2 blade 2.25" 125 grain this year.

 

[jaredgreen]

There are many great Broadhead, and most all of them will work with good shot placement. I would stay away from the small diameter (1" or less) fixed blade heads (Ultimate Steel, Wac-em 3 blade, ect)
Although they fly and penetrate very well, they can result in poor blood trails and long recoveries. Slick tricks, Wac-em 4 blade, Ram cat fly and penetrate just as good (Ramcats maybe better) and much better wound channel.


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[sneaky]

There are many great Broadhead, and most all of them will work with good shot placement. I would stay away from the small diameter (1" or less) fixed blade heads (Ultimate Steel, Wac-em 3 blade, ect)
Although they fly and penetrate very well, they can result in poor blood trails and long recoveries. Slick tricks, Wac-em 4 blade, Ram cat fly and penetrate just as good (Ramcats maybe better) and much better wound channel.

3 blade Wac'Em heads aren't 1" or less, and nothing we've shot with them has made it past 50 yards. This includes several elk, multiple deer, and 3 bears just two weeks ago. 4 blade Wac'Em heads are practically the same size and don't perform any better. Ramcats are a pain in the butt to deal with and blades bend in those like nothin else. Slick Tricks don't kill any quicker than anything else, and they whistle. To each their own, but saying the regular Wac'Em heads aren't effective is ridiculous.

 

[jaredgreen]

There are many great Broadhead, and most all of them will work with good shot placement. I would stay away from the small diameter (1" or less) fixed blade heads (Ultimate Steel, Wac-em 3 blade, ect)
Although they fly and penetrate very well, they can result in poor blood trails and long recoveries. Slick tricks, Wac-em 4 blade, Ram cat fly and penetrate just as good (Ramcats maybe better) and much better wound channel.

3 blade Wac'Em heads aren't 1" or less, and nothing we've shot with them has made it past 50 yards. This includes several elk, multiple deer, and 3 bears just two weeks ago. 4 blade Wac'Em heads are practically the same size and don't perform any better. Ramcats are a pain in the butt to deal with and blades bend in those like nothin else. Slick Tricks don't kill any quicker than anything else, and they whistle. To each their own, but saying the regular Wac'Em heads aren't effective is ridiculous.

I've killed at least 4 elk, a pronghorn and several deer with Wac'Em 3 blades, and would have said the same thing as you until I lost a good bull. I can't guarantee where I hit, because it was never recovered, but it looked perfect. I will say that the blood trails were always sparse. My hunting partners have shot something close to 10 elk between them with Ultimate Steel 100 gr. Same scenario. Great penetration and accuracy. Lousy blood trails and some difficult recoveries. Bottom line, small diameter heads are a trade off. Get back to me after you have had a tough recovery with them.

Your arguments against the other heads I mentioned make no sense and sound a bit fan boy. Wac'Em's work. But I think there are better options, and THAT is the point of this thread.



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[ScottinPA]

Magnus Stinger 150gr 4 blade or Woodsman 150gr.

 

[PaLuke]

Has anyone tried the Magnus Stinger for elk. I'm practicing with them now for the upcoming Idaho elk season and they fly perfect. They are the 100 grain 2 blade. Interested in the replies. Would a 4 blade be better. I read a previous post about poor blood trails with 2 blade broadheads. I've only ever shot 1 bull and it was a spike. That was with a 3 blade muzzy. I just though a cut on contact would be better. Thank you for the replies. Hope I'm not hijacking this thread.

 

[ScottinPA]

I had no problems with a pass thru with the 150gr 4 blade version from a 76lb recurve and 750gr total arrow weight.

 

[Laelkhunter]

The way it was explained to me is, the 2 blade broadhead leaves a slit as the entry wound, which is easier to plug up with fat and hair, resulting in a reduced blood flow for better trailing. A three or four blade actually leaves an entry wound that is very difficult to close on it's own, and a reduced chance that it would get plugged by fat or hair. I have never shot anything with a bow, so I can't state it from firsthand experience, but it makes sense that a slit in an Elk would not let as much blood flow as an X shaped entry and exit wound would.

 

[TheTone]

Has anyone tried the Magnus Stinger for elk. I'm practicing with them now for the upcoming Idaho elk season and they fly perfect. They are the 100 grain 2 blade. Interested in the replies. Would a 4 blade be better. I read a previous post about poor blood trails with 2 blade broadheads. I've only ever shot 1 bull and it was a spike. That was with a 3 blade muzzy. I just though a cut on contact would be better. Thank you for the replies. Hope I'm not hijacking this thread.

I've shot 4 bulls with 4 blade 100 grain magnus stingers. Been happy with the performance on all of them, good blood trails and the farthest any of them have went is maybe 80 yards. There are so many variables that I can't say you or anyone could expect the same performance, but I'll continue to use them.

 

[Jon Boy]

Shuttle tttttts

This.. Easiest broadhead to get to fly I've found. Only broadhead I've killed elk with, if its not broke why fix it? My only complaint is they don't leave great blood trails, which can be a concern, but every elk I've killed with them fell over with in sight.

 

[Clarktar]

Steel force phat heads. Fly great. 2 blade with very small bleeder blades

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[wasatchcomm]

shuttle t's for me 125gr

 

[Chris]

I go back and fourth, ideally I'd like to shoot elk with a fixed blade. Been using slick trick 100 grain magnums and they've treated me well for the most part. I usually shoot around 15-20 pigs here in TX every year, and the big boars are tough to kill. I've started to migrate to G5 strikers and have noticed a little better penetration. They've also been flying better to 50 yards. Past that I'm a NAP kill zone guy. Shot a ton of WT/ and 4 mule deer with them, and they are lethal. I've shot a lot of different heads, and just can't get any real consistency of fixed heads dropping past 50. They all seem to drop past there and I hate to re-sight in for them as I'm using a Black gold ascent slider. She's paper tuned and shooting lights out. Anyone have any suggestions? Strikers are about 4" lower than field tips at 60 yards.


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