Broadhead choice for this year

[Brandon_SPC]

Mainly because shooting a 505 gr Arrow at 280 fps - I have good energy/momentum for a mechanical and I am betting on the cutting diameter of the Trypan being preferable to the penetration of the Iron Will for most shots.

Trypan is also fairly stout for a mechanical head.

Well I can honestly say from the animals I have killed and also help track using a 1" broadhead all the way to a broadhead that has a total cutting diameter of 2 1/4" cut the cutting diameter doesn't make a difference. I can also confidently say that of all the animals I have helped track rages seem to have a high failure rate in regards to blades breaking, bending, and ferrules bending. These are on on 100lb whitetails here in Florida then the probability of them breaking on a bigger animal is higher. Yes quite a few of these have been Trypans.

Also what makes a huge difference is if the broadhead can retain it's edge going through an animal. If a broadhead can stay sharp going through an animal then the blood pressure of the animal will drop a lot faster than that of a dull head. This will equate to shorter tracking jobs and the possibility of more blood on the ground. A rage will not stay sharp going through the animal. The blades are too thin, have to much of a severe angle, and the hardness is not up to par to hold an edge.

Just my two since on seeing a lot of whitetails killed with rage and killing animals with all sorts of broadheads. Of course there has been PLENTY of animals killed with these and they work but just throwing something out there to think about when you already have a great broadhead in your quiver.

 

[maverick351]

Very surprised not to hear more people shooting Shuttle Ts. After tgey cha ged their design I'm curious to see how they do.

 

[Brendan]

@Brandon_SPC - glad you're happy with your choice. I've shot plenty of animals myself, used many different fixed and mechanical broadheads, have many on hand, and feel it's an informed decision. Not getting baited into a "My (insert piece of gear here) is better than yours" discussion - not enough time in the day.

 

[Brandon_SPC]

@Brandon_SPC - glad you're happy with your choice. I've shot plenty of animals myself, used many different fixed and mechanical broadheads, have many on hand, and feel it's an informed decision. Not getting baited into a "My (insert piece of gear here) is better than yours" discussion - not enough time in the day.

I'm not baiting you at all I'm not even talking about mechanical vs fixed here because if I did I would've brought up the Sevr you have in your quiver. You just mentioned you will have all three and I was curious to your reasoning of using a broadhead of sub par components vs using something that is made of high grade tool steel. I also don't know if you have used Rage a lot but me being in a state where you can shoot two deer a day all season and unlimited hogs, you get the ability to see how a lot of broad heads perform on animals. Sorry if it came off in a way that I was trying to start a pissing match because I wasn't. I just hate seeing people loose an animal over a broadhead that has a higher failure rate vs something they already had set up that can provide leaps and bounds over a broadhead that they have huge expectations. Good Luck this season and again my apologies if it came off as me trying to start a "this is better and you should only use this" type conversation.

 

[5MilesBack]

I'm curious why shoot a rage over the Ironwill?

Because the Iron Will is a tiny little head.

Well I can honestly say from the animals I have killed and also help track using a 1" broadhead all the way to a broadhead that has a total cutting diameter of 2 1/4" cut the cutting diameter doesn't make a difference.

Having killed several elk with several different BH's, cutting diameter has absolutely made a big difference.......not necessarily in whether they died, but in blood trails. They're going to die either way if you put the arrow in the right spot. But I've had elk run 75-100 yards through thick timber before they even dropped any blood. That's a whole lot of grid searching instead of walking up to a "path" of blood to follow. And the ones with the large cutting diameter have all fallen very quickly.

But as Brendan pointed out, you want to be shooting with enough "oomph" to make sure you get the penetration one needs with large diameter mechanical heads.

 

[Brandon_SPC]

Because the Iron Will is a tiny little head.

Yeah it is a small head but what is being cut from an Ironwill is about on par or the same to a 1 1/4" three blade broadhead. Which I think it roughly 1.8" of cutting surface vs the 2" cutting surface of a Trypan. Not a huge difference.

 

[KHNC]

What did you dislike after the new owners took over?

I knew Brett Fulton, former owner, when he was running operations. Great guy and great service. The one time i talked to a rep from new ownership ,he was very sarcastic and could have cared less that i supported RC all these years. Far as know the quality is till top notch, but i have option to not do business with people that act like that. So i choose not to buy their products ever again.

 

[5MilesBack]

Yeah it is a small head but what is being cut from an Ironwill is about on par or the same to a 1 1/4" three blade broadhead. Which I think it roughly 1.8" of cutting surface vs the 2" cutting surface of a Trypan. Not a huge difference.

From my experience "overall cutting surface" means less than just cutting diameter. I used Wac'em Exit 4-blade heads on a few elk (2 1/8" overall cutting surface with a 1 1/16" hole), and never got the same blood trails that I've gotten from 3-blade 1 1/2" cut heads. And many times the entry hole with these over the top heads are much smaller than the full 1 1/2" cut. Yet the blood trails have still been significantly better, even without an exit hole and with a hard quartering away hit. You could even say they've been devastatingly impressive trails.

I even shot one low behind the shoulder with an Exit, and while there was blood immediately where it stood, after it took off running I couldn't find another drop in the 150 yards it covered across an open meadow. But it went down just inside the timber on the other side, so not a big deal. But had that been all timber where it ran across, I would have been searching all day without any blood to follow. And that was a lower third passthrough.

I'm looking forward to trying the Trypans on a big bull.......just because I like trying new stuff. But I'm a firm believer in wide-cut heads.........2" 2-blade, or 1 1/2" 3-blade.

 

[Brandon_SPC]

From my experience "overall cutting surface" means less than just cutting diameter. I used Wac'em Exit 4-blade heads on a few elk (2 1/8" overall cutting surface with a 1 1/16" hole), and never got the same blood trails that I've gotten from 3-blade 1 1/2" cut heads. And many times the entry hole with these over the top heads are much smaller than the full 1 1/2" cut. Yet the blood trails have still been significantly better, even without an exit hole and with a hard quartering away hit. You could even say they've been devastatingly impressive trails.

I even shot one low behind the shoulder with an Exit, and while there was blood immediately where it stood, after it took off running I couldn't find another drop in the 150 yards it covered across an open meadow. But it went down just inside the timber on the other side, so not a big deal. But had that been all timber where it ran across, I would have been searching all day without any blood to follow. And that was a lower third passthrough.

I'm looking forward to trying the Trypans on a big bull.......just because I like trying new stuff. But I'm a firm believer in wide-cut heads.........2" 2-blade, or 1 1/2" 3-blade.

Completely understandable. I personally like to take edge retention over cutting diameter within reason. Once you get below 1" of cutting surface then it starts getting extremely questionable for me and to be frank I don't like broadhead under a 1 1/8". I sure as heck you smash one this year and definitely don't experience what I have.

 

[Beendare]

Completely understandable. I personally like to take edge retention over cutting diameter within reason.
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Agreed^

Drag a manilla rope across the blades of your Muzzy or ShuttleT a few times and it will get you scratching your head on how fast those blades dull.

 

[jyoung1901]

2017 Hoyt Defiant Turbo, 29.5" draw, arrows are actually around 505 gr total. According to the SFA program I should be getting 10 FPS less than that, but I have had it chrono'ed a bunch and it is very consistent at 295. The bow did come with "turbo buttons" so I'm SURE that's where the extra FPS are coming from...lol!

Sounds about right, each bow is a little different but my Defiant turbo is shooting 497 gr at 292 turned all the way up to 70 (bottomed out is only 68 thought) at 30 inch draw. But I got pass through shots on almost all of my deer, even ones that weren't the best, shooting NAP killzones. Except one that went in through the hind quarter, luckily still put it down pretty quick.

 

[Badger-1-1]

Got to try Jaggers,new Strikers and some 150 Iron Wills but have to say will likely shoot Magnus B Hornet serrazors for sure for deer. Was a skeptic based on price but shot a couple deer late Fall while trying some new Xtorsions and was floored. Fly extremely well and maybe a fluke but both bloodtrails rival anything I’ve seen with Hypos,Trypans and Killzones. Amazing head,n cheap.

I am shooting the XTORSIONs with regular Black Hornets on my elk set up this year. I hope I get a chance to try them out, total Arrow weight with 125gr Black Hornets is 585gr @ 275fps.

 

[OakFlats273]

Heard tons of great things about Spitfire Max broad heads so I’ll be using them this year. I used tooth of arrow heads last year and they were very durable!

 

[Tim G]

Going to give the Wasp HV a try.

 

[Jtgreene20]

I’ve been mostly a fixed blade guy for years but thinking about just sticking with mechanicals. Not for the reason that is most common that you can’t get fixed to fly like fieldpoints. Really have no issues in that area. I’m more liking them for accuracy under breezy/windy conditions when comparing to fixed. With many mechanicals on the market and most having longer ferrules, which I don’t really care for. My search has narrowed it down to these.

They spin true from head to head and seem to open easily with very little loss in transfer of energy upon impact.

So, let’s hear your pick for this year and the reasons why ?




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Hard to beat the consistency of 100 grain slick trick standards!

 

[Casey_v]

Anybody shot the muzzy ones at all?

 

[3pointer]

125 viper trick , best flying broadhead, atleast out of my nitrum turbo

 

[Danny Hoey]

RAD Rivals 125

 

[quackaddict]

I’m only shooting whitetails and Axis this year, but I’ve got quite a few heads I’m going to try to run through some animals this year.

125gr 4 blade stingers
125gr 2 Blade Serrazors - shot a deer hard quartering away with them last year and the cut was great, but ended up catching spine too.
125gr Grizzlystick Redline XLs
125gr Hellrazors
150gr Carbon Express Piledrivers(haven’t checked to see how 150s will tune yet, but I think they’ll be ok).


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[MedicineMan]

Nothing but Spitfires in my quiver