Blown primers factory ammo

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Not necessarily...as others have stated could be a fouling issue. I do agree save the box or at least record the lot number and contact Norma.
I jumped straight to the ammo because it went from mild to wild in one shot. If he was randomly piercing I'd buy it....but he's blowing the primers clear out of the case. That's not a small bit over....that's more like some unique left in the 4350 throw.....or WAY tight necks.
 

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To those who have mentioned fouling issues.. would said issues be visible to the naked eye? I maybe have 300ish rounds down the tube at this point. I dragged a bore snake through it last night to take out most of the carbon fouling and the bore and chamber look pretty shiny and clean to me in bright light. I've been following @Formidilosus train of thought on not cleaning rifles up to this point and I'm wondering if I now have one of the anomalies
You cannot see a heavy carbon ring without a borescope. I have a rifle with 3000+ shots down the bore. When I got my borescope, from the end of the case neck to the start of the rifling it looked like a solid ring of charcoal. I'm not saying that happened with your gun but a 243 is pretty easy to foul.

That being said, we aren't talking about mild pressure signs here. We're talking about pressures that are very close to causing damage, if it hasn't already happened. So yes, you should confirm that you're really keeping your gun clean. But you might want a chronograph some of that ammunition if you shoot anymore. Probably gives very good velocities :)
 

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I jumped straight to the ammo because it went from mild to wild in one shot. If he was randomly piercing I'd buy it....but he's blowing the primers clear out of the case. That's not a small bit over....that's more like some unique left in the 4350 throw.....or WAY tight necks.
But it is odd that he has put a bunch of rounds down range of the same ammo without an issue an then pop, pop, pop. Unless Norma packages their ammo in sequence that is pretty hard do.
 
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I kind of figured that, but it seemed odd to me that the first 5 boxes were perfect then this one from the same lot was like this. I did buy this ammo so I could get some decent brass for reloading, so I guess I'll just pull down my remaining boxes and reload from here on.
People say Norma brass is good and it is good dimentially but I don’t like it because it is soft
The 243 is well known for pressure spikes
Probably a combination of fouling, poor QC and the design of the case, ie short neck, shallow shoulder angle and relatively large capacity
Same thing is known to happen with the 7 mm REM magnum
 
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Moose83

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Interesting... I reloaded one of my once fired boxes playing with 108 eld-m's. The primer pockets were so tight I had really grip my seating tool to get them all the way in. I always assumed that meant the brass was good and hard?
People say Norma brass is good and it is good dimentially but I don’t like it because it is soft
The 243 is well known for pressure spikes
Probably a combination of fouling, poor QC and the design of the case, ie short neck, shallow shoulder angle and relatively large capacity
Same thing is known to happen with the 7 mm REM magnum
 
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Moose83

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Only 2 things have changed since I last shot this ammo:
1. I tried a few test loads of 108 eld-m's with some of the once fired brass. I have been using hornadys case sizing wax lately as I haven't been able to find one shot locally. I do wipe the cases off but maybe not good enough? My hand loads shot good... no pressure signs there.
2. The temperature has gone up, although not too substantially. Most of my shooting with this ammo has been in the winter months and early spring. I am located in northern BC so it's not like I'm shooting in the desert or anything.

I do have a buddy with a Teslong bore scope. I'll see if I can get some shots of the chamber and neck area.

Still waiting for an email from Norma to see what they say.
 
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