Well an update Fellas if it wasnt super important already, Grandpa passed away in March of this year! As sad as it is i got to be thankful he was with me while i killed my buck aswell as all the pervious hunting seasons and time spent! even at almost 81 years old there was nothing that would keep him from riding around looking/hunting mule deer! Not too mention how many of us will beable to say that killed a 28" 5x6 at 80 years old? on a Bright note i was able to get my deer back from Taxidermist! he did an awesome job!!