Bigger cartridge choice?

[3325]

If you think accubonds are too fragile, try out some partitions. Pretty tough bullet. Midway has em in stock.

The Partition just keeps producing dead and dead can’t get deader. But it was introduced in 1948 so it’s not exciting these days.

 

[Sean1]

That 280 will do it all. You might be better off taking that gun money and 1 trick out your 280 . Upgrade the stock to something like the MDT Hunter 26 folder if your packing in for your elk hunt. If not , new scooe ect and more ammo. Truthfully your better off spending 500 on ammo and shooting a lot.

That being said, who doesnt want a new rifle. I have way to many and bow hunt everything. If you want bigger that 300 PRC looks interesting. You can go to Brownells and pick up a barreled action and drop it in a nice stock pretty reasonably.

The 280 is a custom build already that shoots very well. Still not sure I am 100% happy with the stock but everything else is good.

 

[Sean1]

You are wrong. I’d happily use a 160 ballistic tip on an elk but have only used more fragile bullets in real life.

I appreciate you letting me know. I will pass on the BTs for an Elk sized animal.

 

[Scoutfan]

If 500 yards is your max distance then you already have all the gun you need. If you really want something bigger then I will say I love my 35 whelen! It does everything I want out to 500 yards. I run 225 grain accubonds and internal damage is great without a lot of bloodshot meat. Not getting an exit is rare. If I need more range than what my 30/06ai gives me then I move up to a 300rum. I use 180 and 225 accubonds and have been very happy with terminal performance and normally get exits.
If exit hole are your highest priority then a swift A-frame or all copper bullet is your friend.

 

[wind gypsy]

I appreciate you letting me know. I will pass on the BTs for an Elk sized animal.

Ballistic tips are stoutly constructed bullets. The fact that they make bigger wounds than some other stout bullets doesn’t mean they aren’t plenty stout for plenty of penetration.

Look at a cross section illustrations, the jackets taper to be very thick.

 

[Article 4]

I am kinda in line with a few guys here - the line I liked was a metric Sh*t ton of elk have been killed with all kinds of calibers...

My thing is if I am hunting elk at all - I prefer to go with a bullet of 175 grains or larger to a specific effective range - 30-06 included all the way up to the 7/300 NMI that i have personally killed elk with.

Make it fun, whatever that means to you. To me, if it isn't fun to shoot, whatever it is, I would rather not have it

 

[prm]

30-06 with a 180 Partition.

 

[TaperPin]

Well, I may be totally wrong about the 6 creed and 108 eldm way out there - look at the recovered bullets at the end.

 

[Sean1]

Ballistic tips are stoutly constructed bullets. The fact that they make bigger wounds than some other stout bullets doesn’t mean they aren’t plenty stout for plenty of penetration.

Look at a cross section illustrations, the jackets taper to be very thick.

I appreciate your opinion but I would not consider a BT stoutly constructed. I have taken many whitetail with a 150-165 BT. Only one exited(165) all others grenaded inside the chest cavity liquifying the vitals.

I would worry a shoulder bone on an Elk would make a BT come apart before it made it to the vitals.

 

[burritosavage]

I was recently in the same boat and ended up going 280 ackley for a “do everything up to elk” rifle build. Extremely happy with its performance this past season on elk but like with any caliber, bullet choice is probably the most important… along with knowing the bullets capabilities & limits.

I went with the 150gr CX bullet from Hornady and took a bull this year at 500 yds with an impact velocity of around 2100 fps. Bull went maybe 20 yds and tipped over. Slightly quartering to, full pass through, lungs & liver, insides were soup. Died in less than 20 secs.

Hornady gives an impact velocity min on the CX bullet of 2100+ fps for optimized performance so that put my max shot distance at 500 yds with my specific load.

Obviously this is a single case but just an example of a bullet doing its job within its capabilities for one of the rifles on your list.

 

[Article 4]

So I have the opportunity to take part in an impromptu experiment today. Three of us went on a bison hunt. We each had:

1. A 7mm Rem mag - 168 grain bullet
2. A 300 WM - 180 grain bullet
3. My 470 NE - 500 grain bullet

Hunter 1 shot a bull at 120 yards. Made a good shot in the sweet spot, it hunkered up in the herd and lived wounded for 14 minutes until we could clear the heard and he could shoot it again. Limped around, laid down, got up, walked around with the herd and finally broke off the end and stood there hurting bad. 14 minutes and not dead. Shot it in the head the second shot

Hunter 2 shot his bull well, it died in about 4 minutes, limping away spitting blood without a second shot needed. Didn't film it.

Hunter 3, me. Shot 3 bulls with my 470 NE. One for me, 1 for church and one to share with friends and colleagues. One piled up on the spot, shot in the heart. One ran 40 yards and was dead in 10 seconds and the third, a runner, ran and since I had 2 in the tubes, I shot it twice to be sure and the second shot smashed a 1200 lb animal to the ground on the spot. Cant attach the video sadly...pic attached

Just like car engines, there is no replacement for displacement!!!