Biden Administration urges Supreme court to let cops enter homes and seize guns without a warrant

[robtattoo]

 

[Wib]

I will repeat what I said on another related thread. This is happening folks, but not overnight. We are in the middle of a process of steps...
The Democrat Socialist Party and their globalist cabal intend to do this in steps, taking many years yet. One of their very first moves now that these Commies own all 3 Branches of government is to attack the PLCAA. The very protection that gun makers have against lawsuits. Bringing a ton of frivolous lawsuits would choke the courts and cause these companies to spend millions defending themselves. Doesn't matter that they would win, the money and energy spent defending themselves would make many go under and cause the rest to limit production and eliminate production in some cases. It's already on the table, Chuck the smilin possum and big Nanc are posturing as we sit. They have billions and billions of reasons to do this, much of it coming from the likes of Soros, Bloomberg, and Steyer. Their ultimate goal of course is confiscation, but that's down the road. They first must "educate" the population, and make it difficult and very expensive to buy and soon own both guns and ammo.

 

[Hoodie]

Not everyone is Patriots.., some like to sit back and watch the country and our freedoms go down the toilet while others post on rockslide about how they cant believe people are doing that. But its ok....BHA is fighting for public lands

This is uh...perplexing.

Are you saying it´s bad that BHA is fighting for public lands? What does that have to do with the Capitol situation? Or patriotism?

You could also have said:

¨Not everyone is Patriots.., some like to sit back and watch the country and our freeoms go down the toilet while others post on Rokslide about they can´t believe people are doing that. But it´s ok... RMEF is fighting for elk habitat.¨

Would that mean itś bad that RMEF is fighting for elk habitat?

Iḿ just not getting what you´re saying here. Like even a little.

 

[Okhotnik]

This is uh...perplexing.

Are you saying it´s bad that BHA is fighting for public lands? What does that have to do with the Capitol situation? Or patriotism?

You could also have said:

¨Not everyone is Patriots.., some like to sit back and watch the country and our freeoms go down the toilet while others post on Rokslide about they can´t believe people are doing that. But it´s ok... RMEF is fighting for elk habitat.¨

Would that mean itś bad that RMEF is fighting for elk habitat?

Iḿ just not getting what you´re saying here. Like even a little.

This BHA Leader would disagree with you

Being pro-gun also means being pro-responsibility: We must oppose HB102

Opinion: This spring my young son was attacked in Kalispell by armed “Second Amendment patriots” at a local peaceful demonstration.

missoulian.com

Busse has also served as board chair for Montana Conservation Voters and as North American board chair for Backcountry Hunters and Anglers.

Influentuial BHA member Charles Post would disagree too

Who is this weasel??

So who is this weasel, charles post, and who let him in the hen house? I've seen this guy plastered all over social media, and for the life of me I cant find out why. Now he is holding hands with an anti hunting/ anti firearms group that is spewing false stats on gun violence (ie mass...

www.rokslide.com

 

[Hoodie]

This BHA Leader would disagree with you

Being pro-gun also means being pro-responsibility: We must oppose HB102

Opinion: This spring my young son was attacked in Kalispell by armed “Second Amendment patriots” at a local peaceful demonstration.

missoulian.com

Busse has also served as board chair for Montana Conservation Voters and as North American board chair for Backcountry Hunters and Anglers.

Influentuial BHA member Charles Post would disagree too

Who is this weasel??

So who is this weasel, charles post, and who let him in the hen house? I've seen this guy plastered all over social media, and for the life of me I cant find out why. Now he is holding hands with an anti hunting/ anti firearms group that is spewing false stats on gun violence (ie mass...

www.rokslide.com

Busse isn´t a current BHA board member. Nor was he at the time of the op-ed. He was also an employee of Kimber at one time. Wasn´t working for them when he wrote that either. And while I don´t personally care about his opinions on concealed carry on college campuses in Montana, I know for a fact BHA doesn´t have an official position on that. Because I looked for it.

Can you explain to me, in a real simple way, why I should expect BHA to have an official position on students being able to concealed carry at the University of Montana?

Then, after that, can you show me where RMEF or MDF came out with their official stance on constitutional carry?

Then maybe you can show me where the latter two organizations posted their opposition to the California bear hunting ban, or the New Mexico trapping ban.

Then maybe Iĺl understand why I shouldn´t pay my BHA dues.

 

[wind gypsy]

Busse isn´t a current BHA board member. Nor was he at the time of the op-ed. He was also an employee of Kimber at one time. Wasn´t working for them when he wrote that either. And while I don´t personally care about his opinions on concealed carry on college campuses in Montana, I know for a fact BHA doesn´t have an official position on that. Because I looked for it.

Can you explain to me, in a real simple way, why I should expect BHA to have an official position on students being able to concealed carry at the University of Montana?

Then, after that, can you show me where RMEF or MDF came out with their official stance on constitutional carry?

Then maybe you can show me where the latter two organizations posted their opposition to the California bear hunting ban, or the New Mexico trapping ban.

Then maybe Iĺl understand why I shouldn´t pay my BHA dues.

Logic doesn't apply to BHA derangement syndrome.

 

[Hoodie]

This BHA Leader would disagree with you

Being pro-gun also means being pro-responsibility: We must oppose HB102

Opinion: This spring my young son was attacked in Kalispell by armed “Second Amendment patriots” at a local peaceful demonstration.

missoulian.com

Busse has also served as board chair for Montana Conservation Voters and as North American board chair for Backcountry Hunters and Anglers.

I guess can´t take my BHA dues and put them towards Trumpś reelection campaign either:

Trump puts NRA on defensive with stunning gun comments

President Trump has touched off new tensions with the National Rifle Association after urging Republican lawmakers not to be "afraid" of the powerful gun lobby and openly entertaining more gun restrictions during a rare public debate with Hill leaders.

www.foxnews.com

Here´s a nice little quote from the former president in this Fox News article (which was already posted and conveniently ignored earlier in this thread):

'Take the guns first. Go through due process second.' - Donald J. Trump, POTUS.


That sure sounds a lot like what this thread is all about. It´s crazy. Almost like you can´t trust politicians on either side of the aisle these days.

Well, at least Trump wasn´t a former BHA chair member.

 

[TheGDog]

View attachment 276996

Just thought about something... everybody and their mama likes to throw around this scare term "mass shooter"... or "mass shooting" and then cite numbers based on that terminology. But it occurred to me that this does not necessarily weed out from the counting those incidences where... the one doing the shooting is NOT the aggressor in the incident, and could be defending themselves. Which I have to imagine unfairly inflates this number they are trying to associate with evil and the whole "guns are bad MMkay" type of narrative.

Mass shooting - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Okhotnik]

And BHA used a lot of resources to support this former congress woman , who did not pay her taxes and sponsored 3 anti gun bills. that would ban and confiscate firearms. Funny BHA leadership and Land Tawny did nothing to help stop the ban on NM trapping. So much for helping sportsmen Where's Tawney's response to the trapping ban?

Debra A. Haaland

Sponsored legislation by Debra A. Haaland, the Representative from New Mexico - in Congress from 2021 through 2021

www.congress.gov

BHA Reacts to Haaland’s Selection as Interior Secretary

Backcountry Hunters & Anglers is the voice for our wild public lands, waters and wildlife.

www.backcountryhunters.org

 

[Okhotnik]

I guess can´t take my BHA dues and put them towards Trumpś reelection campaign either:

Trump puts NRA on defensive with stunning gun comments

President Trump has touched off new tensions with the National Rifle Association after urging Republican lawmakers not to be "afraid" of the powerful gun lobby and openly entertaining more gun restrictions during a rare public debate with Hill leaders.

www.foxnews.com

Here´s a nice little quote from the former president in this Fox News article (which was already posted and conveniently ignored earlier in this thread):

'Take the guns first. Go through due process second.' - Donald J. Trump, POTUS.


That sure sounds a lot like what this thread is all about. It´s crazy. Almost like you can´t trust politicians on either side of the aisle these days.

Well, at least Trump wasn´t a former BHA chair member.

Logic doesn't apply to BHA derangement syndrome.

Logic doesn't apply to BHA derangement syndrome.

Where's that anti gun video BHA guru Charles Post and Thom's Shoes owner put on instagram? Did he delete it? Did Sitka end up schit canning Post?

 

[Broomd]

Logic doesn't apply to BHA derangement syndrome.

People still actually believing in and funding the Progressive farce known as BHA...

Can't fix stupid.

 

[PablitoPescador]

Fish And Game/Wildlife laws are Prima Facie laws, unlike most other laws. In the case of wildlife, there is no one reporting the crime, animals are unable to voice for themselves. As such, the game regulations take this into consideration and just the act of hunting, fishing, and going to or from legally allows Game Wardens, and only Game Wardens to search without obtaining warrant. Very similar to the IRS seizing property bank accounts... So the next time a Warden asks you if you mind if they look in your vehicle, home... keep in mind they do not need your permission.

Our game laws define what we CAN do, where most other laws define what we cannot do. If or game laws do not list something, then it IS illegal. Most other types of laws, again, list what we cannot do, and if it is not listed, then it is not illegal (just make sure you have considered all laws).

So blasting a Sasquatch would be illegal? Asking for a friend...

 

[Hoodie]

Funny BHA leadership and Land Tawny did nothing to help stop the ban on NM trapping. So much for helping sportsmen.

Join NM BHA in Opposing the Public Land Trapping Ban

Backcountry Hunters & Anglers is the voice for our wild public lands, waters and wildlife.

www.backcountryhunters.org

Here's BHA's response.

Here's their response to the CA bear ban.

CA BHA Opposes Proposed Ban on Bear Hunting

Backcountry Hunters & Anglers (BHA), the voice for our wild public lands, waters, and wildlife, urges California legislators to oppose Senate Bill 252, which would ban black bear hunting in the state. For more than 100 years, the North American Model of Wildlife Conservation and the Public...

www.backcountryhunters.org

I'll ask again. Please post RMEF's or MDF's public opposition to either of these pieces of anti-sportsmen legislation.

Then after that show me where they voiced their support for constitutional carry in Montana.

Should be easy right?

 

[Bubblehide]

So blasting a Sasquatch would be illegal? Asking for a friend...

 

[PablitoPescador]

I guess can´t take my BHA dues and put them towards Trumpś reelection campaign either:

Trump puts NRA on defensive with stunning gun comments

President Trump has touched off new tensions with the National Rifle Association after urging Republican lawmakers not to be "afraid" of the powerful gun lobby and openly entertaining more gun restrictions during a rare public debate with Hill leaders.

www.foxnews.com

Here´s a nice little quote from the former president in this Fox News article (which was already posted and conveniently ignored earlier in this thread):

'Take the guns first. Go through due process second.' - Donald J. Trump, POTUS.


That sure sounds a lot like what this thread is all about. It´s crazy. Almost like you can´t trust politicians on either side of the aisle these days.

Well, at least Trump wasn´t a former BHA chair member.

Did you notice the conservative backlash when Trump said that?! He got hammered by the right and ultimately walked it back. Principle over party

 

[Hoodie]

People still actually believing in and funding the Progressive farce known as BHA...

Can't fix stupid.

CA BHA Opposes Proposed Ban on Bear Hunting

Backcountry Hunters & Anglers (BHA), the voice for our wild public lands, waters, and wildlife, urges California legislators to oppose Senate Bill 252, which would ban black bear hunting in the state. For more than 100 years, the North American Model of Wildlife Conservation and the Public...

www.backcountryhunters.org

Join NM BHA in Opposing the Public Land Trapping Ban

Backcountry Hunters & Anglers is the voice for our wild public lands, waters and wildlife.

www.backcountryhunters.org

I didn't see opposition like this from other major conservation organizations like RMEF or MDF. They were silent.

Are they progressive farces? Should I take their silence to mean they are actually advancing a liberal agenda to end firearm ownership by private citizens?

I don't want bear hunting banned. Or trapping on public lands banned. Why should I give my money to other organizations if they don't speak up?

 

[Hoodie]

Did you notice the conservative backlash when Trump said that?! He got hammered by the right and ultimately walked it back. Principle over party

I'm inclined to agree.

But the question remains: because he said that, do I now have to assume he's part of what one poster referred to as a "globalist cabal" bent on ending private gun ownership?

And if not, why?

If I don't assume he's part of this globalist cabal, why should I assume someone else from another party is when they propose, quite literally, the exact same idea.

This shit gets stupid pretty fast when you think about like even a little.

 

[Ten Bears]

Join NM BHA in Opposing the Public Land Trapping Ban

Backcountry Hunters & Anglers is the voice for our wild public lands, waters and wildlife.

www.backcountryhunters.org

Here's BHA's response.

Here's their response to the CA bear ban.

CA BHA Opposes Proposed Ban on Bear Hunting

Backcountry Hunters & Anglers (BHA), the voice for our wild public lands, waters, and wildlife, urges California legislators to oppose Senate Bill 252, which would ban black bear hunting in the state. For more than 100 years, the North American Model of Wildlife Conservation and the Public...

www.backcountryhunters.org

I'll ask again. Please post RMEF's or MDF's public opposition to either of these pieces of anti-sportsmen legislation.

Then after that show me where they voiced their support for constitutional carry in Montana.

Should be easy right?

Do you work for BHA ?

You came around last year and seem to mostly post in defense of when these topics come up.


Also why do you keep doing the whataboutism with RMEF ?

 

[Hoodie]

Do you work for BHA ?

You came around last year and seem to mostly post in defense of when these topics come up.


Also why do you keep doing the whataboutism with RMEF ?

No. I do give them $35 a year though.

As for RMEF, why not?

BHA is apparently expected to take a stand on concealed carry on college campuses. Why should RMEF and MDF not be expected to voice their opposition to stuff like the legislation I mentioned? It's clearly more relevant to hunting.

I think that's a reasonable question to ask.

Another reasonable question to ask is why does BHA keep getting brought up in threads like this?

If there are sportsmen's organizations that are secretly a part of a globalist cabal I want to know. So until I get some answers about why RMEF and MDF didn't say anything about SB-252 or SB-32, I've got to assume they want to take my guns away according to Okhotnik's line of reasoning.

(I'm a big fan of RMEF and MDF. They do great work. The above is just to illustrate the stupid double standard applied to BHA here.)

 

[Okhotnik]

I guess can´t take my BHA dues and put them towards Trumpś reelection campaign either:

Trump puts NRA on defensive with stunning gun comments

President Trump has touched off new tensions with the National Rifle Association after urging Republican lawmakers not to be "afraid" of the powerful gun lobby and openly entertaining more gun restrictions during a rare public debate with Hill leaders.

www.foxnews.com

Here´s a nice little quote from the former president in this Fox News article (which was already posted and conveniently ignored earlier in this thread):

'Take the guns first. Go through due process second.' - Donald J. Trump, POTUS.


That sure sounds a lot like what this thread is all about. It´s crazy. Almost like you can´t trust politicians on either side of the aisle these days.

Well, at least Trump wasn´t a former BHA chair member.

Giffords Endorses Deb Haaland for Congress in New Mexico

The endorsement comes as part of Giffords’ #VoteCourage Campaign to elect gun reform candidates nationwide July 25, 2018 — Giffords, the gun

giffords.org

Here are some gems from BHA members on FB

Just spending a few minutes noticed a lot of anti gun sentiment by BHA members

https://www.facebook.com/backcountryhunters/posts/4793839224022352

Zachary Brian there’s a big difference between supporting 2A and having completely unregulated access to any and all firearms by people with histories of violence or significant mental illness or otherwise be labeled as “anti-2A.”. I’m a hunter and pro 2A, but I also believe in responsible gun laws and ownership.


Democrats hunt, but not from helicopters and not in dens and not in cages. We don't hunt endangered species, but democrats are hunters and conservationists. We also deal in facts and science, which is shocking to the other side which despises science and facts.


Don't conflate hunting and traps that are horrid. Trapping done in NM is appallingly awful to other animals and leg hold traps should be banned OF COURSE

trapping has nothing to do with complete and sound wildlife management.

Yeah, and one planet being decimated by coal, poor ignorant anti-science credulous cult followers don't have a clue. I'm so positive you despise clean water, clean air and wildlife, consider Mars for your next move, pls

Are you a dues-paying member of BHA?!? Or are you a alt right plant that is lurking here to dig up dirt on real conservation groups for your BIG OIL, BIG AG, BIG PHARMA Paymasters?