Biden Administration urges Supreme court to let cops enter homes and seize guns without a warrant

[Hoodie]

Don't conflate hunting and traps that are horrid. Trapping done in NM is appallingly awful to other animals and leg hold traps should be banned OF COURSE

trapping has nothing to do with complete and sound wildlife management.

NM Public Land Trapping Ban Moves Forward

Backcountry Hunters & Anglers is the voice for our wild public lands, waters and wildlife.

www.backcountryhunters.org

Join NM BHA in Opposing the Public Land Trapping Ban

Backcountry Hunters & Anglers is the voice for our wild public lands, waters and wildlife.

www.backcountryhunters.org

 

[Ten Bears]

No. I do give them $35 a year though.

As for RMEF, why not?

BHA is apparently expected to take a stand on concealed carry on college campuses. Why should RMEF and MDF not be expected to voice their opposition to stuff like the legislation I mentioned? It's clearly more relevant to hunting.

I think that's a reasonable question to ask.

Another reasonable question to ask is why does BHA keep getting brought up in threads like this?

If there are sportsmen's organizations that are secretly a part of a globalist cabal I want to know. So until I get some answers about why RMEF and MDF didn't say anything about SB-252 or SB-32, I've got to assume they want to take my guns away according to Okhotnik's line of reasoning.

(I'm a big fan of RMEF and MDF. They do great work. The above is just to illustrate the stupid double standard applied to BHA here.)

I would assume the reason RMEF, Wild Sheep, MDF. WTF, etc don't get mentioned in the same breath as BHA does is because of the funding they receive from anti gun/liberal folks. Fair or not to you, that's what happens when you get involved with folks that are against 2A/Predator hunting/etc.

They have had multiple opportunities to give clarity to a plethora of topics that caused this sentiment and frankly never delivered great answers. It's been discussed to dead horse level so we don't need to rehash.

Have you spoke with RMEF and MDF about your concerns ?

Another thing I have noticed is that the members of RMEF/MDF/WS?etc don't feel the need to defend EVERY single thing negative about them or have their employees (known or not) rush to their defense online.

I am a former member who acknowledges the BHA has done some good work and on local level some chapters can be great. That being said in my opinion, I don't trust the org. on a national level and I debate internally if they have done more harm that good within the hunting community.

 

[Hoodie]

Giffords Endorses Deb Haaland for Congress in New Mexico

The endorsement comes as part of Giffords’ #VoteCourage Campaign to elect gun reform candidates nationwide July 25, 2018 — Giffords, the gun

giffords.org

https://www.facebook.com/backcountryhunters/posts/4793839224022352

BHA Response to Zinke Selection as Interior Secretary

Backcountry Hunters & Anglers is the voice for our wild public lands, waters and wildlife.

www.backcountryhunters.org

Here's what they said about Trump's first appointee.

Seems fairly balanced.

 

[Hoodie]

Another thing I have noticed is that the members of RMEF/MDF/WS?etc don't feel the need to defend EVERY single thing negative about them or have their employees (known or not) rush to their defense online.

They don't have to.

I'm a member of two out of three of the ones you mentioned.

If somebody seriously suggested RMEF was part of some leftist conspiracy, believe me, I'd call them out on it.

 

[Okhotnik]

CA BHA Opposes Proposed Ban on Bear Hunting

Backcountry Hunters & Anglers (BHA), the voice for our wild public lands, waters, and wildlife, urges California legislators to oppose Senate Bill 252, which would ban black bear hunting in the state. For more than 100 years, the North American Model of Wildlife Conservation and the Public...

www.backcountryhunters.org

Join NM BHA in Opposing the Public Land Trapping Ban

Backcountry Hunters & Anglers is the voice for our wild public lands, waters and wildlife.

www.backcountryhunters.org

I didn't see opposition like this from other major conservation organizations like RMEF or MDF. They were silent.

Are they progressive farces? Should I take their silence to mean they are actually advancing a liberal agenda to end firearm ownership by private citizens?

I don't want bear hunting banned. Or trapping on public lands banned. Why should I give my money to other organizations if they don't speak up?

BHA has millions of dollars. Whta's their budget in 2021 ? 15 million? How much money and resources did they spend fighting the trapping and bear hunting bans in NM and CA? Ive asked this before and never received a response. . They brag on their home page how much money they expend for different non essential projects that don't support hunting.

Who is Joel Gay? Is he chairman of BHA now? Why didn't BHA leadership do anything to help? I know why

Wow two simple articles on the BHA web site.How much did that cost BHA? A few minutes of their time? How would two small articles on the BHA web site help? How many average citizens, legislators in NM or California access the BHA site to get information? Did BHA buy any ads in local news or newspapers in NM or CA with their huge budget? lol BHA sure spent al to more time and resources writing a lot of articles supporting Haaland who is on record many many times wanting to to ban and confiscate firearms.

Looks like Haaland has two DUI convictions, has never held a job for long and didnt pay her taxes. Great background to run and manage thousands of employees and manage millions of acres lol

But she does want to ban firearms so she fits the bill for BHA I guess

In over her head: Deb Haaland advances to Senate as Interior nominee

In Joe Biden's caretaker administration, it's amazing how many misdeeds can be erased through the useful tool of identity politics. Take his nomination of Deb Haaland, a congresswoman representing greater Albuquerque, who

www.americanthinker.com

a two year could connect the dots

 

[Hoodie]

BHA has millions of dollars. Whta's their budget in 2021 ? 15 million? How much money and resources did they spend fighting the trapping and bear hunting bans in NM and CA? Ive asked this before and never received a response.

How much did the conservation organizations you support spend?

I've asked this before and never gotten a response.

However little it cost BHA to post those responses, I have to assume it was more than it cost RMEF or MDF to post literally nothing.

 

[whaack]

Gee, that sounds like the rallying cry of the people who invaded the U.S. Capital. Look where it got 400+ of them, and still counting.

Sounds like the proper balance of power to me snd the way our country was designed to operate.


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[Okhotnik]

How much did the conservation organizations you support spend?

I've asked this before and never gotten a response.

However little it cost BHA to post those responses, I have to assume it was more than it cost RMEF or MDF to post literally nothing.

The same non response like usual Zero dollars and resources to help hunters as hunting season are banned but BHA resources used to support gun ban and confiscation politicians and m movements . Not surprised. Take the money and run. What a scam. Give your money to RMEF and MDF.

Just go BHA's social media and see all of the anti gun anti trapping members

 

[BuzzH]

How much did the conservation organizations you support spend?

I've asked this before and never gotten a response.

However little it cost BHA to post those responses, I have to assume it was more than it cost RMEF or MDF to post literally nothing.

Don't feed the troll...Ribka/Okhotnik is a broken record...."but, but, Thom's shoe owner and Charles Post...oh, and Ted Turner. That Busse guy, who isnt on the BHA National board anymore and doesnt work for Kimber too...that guy".

A washed up, do-nothing, never has been that probably spends the rest of his busy day yelling at clouds.

Facts don't matter to trolls...

Carry on.

 

[Okhotnik]

mic drop and BHA supports this

 

[Okhotnik]

Don't feed the troll...Ribka/Okhotnik is a broken record...."but, but, Thom's shoe owner and Charles Post...oh, and Ted Turner. That Busse guy, who isnt on the BHA National board anymore and doesnt work for Kimber too...that guy".

A washed up, do-nothing, never has been that probably spends the rest of his busy day yelling at clouds.

Facts don't matter to trolls...

Carry on.

Hey Buzz. For the third time how much money of their many many millions did BHA donate to help stop the trapping and bear ban in NM and California to help hunters? The BHA website indicates zero dollars

What's your response to this as a high ranking BHA rep? pretty simple question. Why did did BHA not support Zinke who was highly qualified and and support Haaland who has never held a real job, has two DUI convictions, did not pay her taxes and introduced three bills to ban firearms. Again a real simple question for a BHA rep like you. Seems like BHA is a scam because you refuse to answer these very simple questions

 

[Billinsd]

I would assume the reason RMEF, Wild Sheep, MDF. WTF, etc don't get mentioned in the same breath as BHA does is because of the funding they receive from anti gun/liberal folks. Fair or not to you, that's what happens when you get involved with folks that are against 2A/Predator hunting/etc.

I don't trust the org. on a national level and I debate internally if they have done more harm that good within the hunting community.

Excellent, clear, concise reason why the majority of hunters are and should be against BHA. It's EXACTLY how I feel too. All in agreement say Aye!

 

[Gobbler36]

How much did the conservation organizations you support spend?

I've asked this before and never gotten a response.

However little it cost BHA to post those responses, I have to assume it was more than it cost RMEF or MDF to post literally nothing.

You can go look at the countless tracts of land on their youtube that they have helped by and keep open in the public trust for hunting. hell of a lot more than BHA had ever been able to say

 

[Hoodie]

Fair or not to you, that's what happens when you get involved with folks that are against 2A/Predator hunting/etc.

It´s less about what´s fair for me, and more about what´s effective.

Given their broader mission it seems reasonable to expect that BHA would have a broader donor demographic than RMEF or MDF. Public lands have a lot of bi-partisan support.

But after SB-252 and SB-32, it´s clear that BHA is more willing to vocally oppose legislation targeting predator hunting and trapping.than either of the other organizations. Thatś pretty much beyond debate at this point.

If RMEF and MDF are so much more pro-predator hunting, I wouldn´t have expected them to sit on the sidelines during the California bear debacle. Given that they did, Iḿ not sure that having more pro-2A sources of funding matters that much to me.There´s plenty of pro-2A organizations out there for that.

Massive spending isn´t what got SB-252 tabled in California. People speaking up did.

It just doesn´t make any sense at this point to say BHA is anti-predator hunting.

 

[Hoodie]

Zero dollars and resources to help hunters as hunting season are banned Give your money to RMEF and MDF.

In California, SB 252 was tabled pretty much exclusively due to people speaking up.

Given that BHA vocally opposed it (and SB-32 in NM) we know where they stand, and how much they contributed. All they contributed was their formal opposition. It probably didn´t cost a lot.

Where was the formal opposition from MDF and RMEF? How much did doing nothing cost them?

Should I assume, due to their doing nothing, that they are anti predator hunting? If not, why?

 

[TheGDog]

^^ I think it's ironic that the government is giving out stimulus checks that are being spent on the very thing the government is afraid of.
Defacto funding of private militia.

I have a theory that part of the reason WHY they're deciding to do this "gesture" of doing stim checks is because:

A) They can pork-belly tack-on a buncha extranneous shit to give their friends money.
B) It makes them have the perception of caring or doing something about it. 'Cause of course they wan't folks to think of them as being pro-active, regardless of whether it's helpful or not.
C) It helps move funds out of one accounting bucket that they probably can't touch.... gets given to us.. we spend it... then it turns into tax revenue income sources which they ARE allowed to get their greedy hands on and do shit with.

 

[TheGDog]

the 1st Amendment was removed rather easily, what two more going to hurt (2nd and 4th)
sarcasm

Thankfully... you can't digitize the 2nd Amendment!

 

[TheGDog]

the death penalty not only needs to be used, its use needs to be expanded.

I used to think like that. However, there have been a surprising number of dudes... who have gotten railroaded into death row that didn't do the crime... and lucky for them.... years later we came up with DNA evidence technology which completely exonerated them.

I'm not entirely opposed to the death penalty though. I think we can all agree that all the various creepos where we all like to say "There's a special place in Hell for them." Those mofos need to burn. But... I do think we have to figure out how to redo the language related to when it's allowable to have the death penalty as a sentence such that we're not running into this risk of there being any doubt whatsoever as to the validity of the verdicts rendered.

For example, if there is clear, un-retouched, non deep-faked video evidence... yeah.. totally.. that mofo gets to burn. But I think if any logical thinking person has the ability to present any possible scenario which could account for the holes in a prosecutions arguments given, where evidence is lacking so the focus shifts more over to trying to paint a picture of motive and opportunity. I'd say in those instances.... just because we can't possibly know totally for sure... we have to just throw up our hands and not off the guy and instead just make sure ya get some good work out of him. Which a lot of people are also kind of upset about as well, because it does in essence amount to modern day slavery. So there's a little Catch-22 goin' on there too.

 

[TheGDog]

I would assume the reason RMEF, Wild Sheep, MDF. WTF, etc don't get mentioned in the same breath as BHA does is because of the funding they receive from anti gun/liberal folks. Fair or not to you, that's what happens when you get involved with folks that are against 2A/Predator hunting/etc.

They have had multiple opportunities to give clarity to a plethora of topics that caused this sentiment and frankly never delivered great answers. It's been discussed to dead horse level so we don't need to rehash.

Have you spoke with RMEF and MDF about your concerns ?

Another thing I have noticed is that the members of RMEF/MDF/WS?etc don't feel the need to defend EVERY single thing negative about them or have their employees (known or not) rush to their defense online.

I am a former member who acknowledges the BHA has done some good work and on local level some chapters can be great. That being said in my opinion, I don't trust the org. on a national level and I debate internally if they have done more harm that good within the hunting community.

I recently joined that group on FB. BHA CA Chapter. And yeah... there is this one dude.. I wanna say Micheal Sutton? I think? And apparently that dudes *used* to be a higher up within that organization, and the other day this dumbass barked-up with the equivalent of a verbal high-five referring to CA's banning of Predator Hunting competitions. So yeah... don't trust that organization in terms of being on the correct side of the fence politically. If they are gonna allow dufuses like that idiot to pop-off the lip with thinly-veiled anti-hunter sentiment BS... they can eat a bag of em. I will say that many folks, myself included, were quick to pipe up and express their displeasure with his position. And seems like most of 'em AREN'T like that guy. But you know... if they've EVER had some dork like that all up in there higher echelons of their org. Just shows they can't be trusted to do what is right.

 

[DWhitt]

In California, SB 252 was tabled pretty much exclusively due to people speaking up.

Given that BHA vocally opposed it (and SB-32 in NM) we know where they stand, and how much they contributed. All they contributed was their formal opposition. It probably didn´t cost a lot.

Where was the formal opposition from MDF and RMEF? How much did doing nothing cost them?

Should I assume, due to their doing nothing, that they are anti predator hunting? If not, why?

Are you a spokesman for BHA? The writing is on the wall with them. Keep believing they are pro gun...