Biden Administration urges Supreme court to let cops enter homes and seize guns without a warrant

[Buck197]

Ya, this is goin GREAT. Illegals in hotels while vets sleep on the streets. Abolition of Constitutional rights. Cancel culture. Absolutely obvious discontent and perversion of core American values. Defunding American energy only to fund terrorist pipelines in Syria / Yemen. 2.9 TRILLION dollar package for special interest. Yep, only a few of a long list but hey, things are goin GREAT!

I am so proud, soon none of yall will.be able to kill me, I mean people only get.murdered by ARs, AKs, and banana clips.

You haven't been paying attention........when they come after conservatives, they send full SWAT teams in the dark of the night.

Then Biden pushing for more gun laws.........ya, if we'd only had a law against shooting 10 people before that happened. Sure.......more laws are the answer. SMH Do these idiots ever think before opening their pie holes?

They do think, alot more than ANY of us do. Duh, I mean obviously they are super intelligent, a dummy like me would never figure out how to become a multi millionaire on a couple hundred grand a year job.

 

[Ozarkansas]

I usually end up on the less conservative side of debates here on rokslide, but I have absolutely no idea how you could support warrantless gun confiscation, let alone argue for it in court. It seems like the most clear-cut 2A violation there is.

 

[SteveinMN]

I'm curious how many have read the article. While guns happen to be involved here they are not central to the issue discussed. The title of the article is misleading but sure got some of y'all pretty fired up. To me the real issue here is 4th amendment rights, lying police officers, and unlawful seizure of property.

There are very few situations where I think it's appropriate for guns to be sized, but a domestic argument where one of parties leaves the room, gets a gun, then returns to the argument with said gun sure seems like a great example of when somebody shouldn't have a gun. My feelings on the situation don't make it legal though and cops overstepping their authority is something we should all be able to agree is a bad thing.

 

[FLAK]

The Gov't SHOULD be scared of us. Not vice versa.

 

[Ozarkansas]

@SteveinMN thats part of what’s baffling to me though- not only does it seem to be a 2A violation, but cops lied and there is a strong case that they violated the 4th amendment as well. I’m surprised it even had to make it up to the Supreme Court.

 

[5MilesBack]

There are very few situations where I think it's appropriate for guns to be sized, but a domestic argument where one of parties leaves the room, gets a gun, then returns to the argument with said gun sure seems like a great example of when somebody shouldn't have a gun.

The problem with that argument is that you could replace "gun" above with just about anything else........baseball bat, knife, hockey stick, hammer, etc, etc, etc......and doing that doesn't change what the root problem is at all. It's like every time the media and morons say "gun violence". Guns aren't violent........not even a little bit. They just sit there, and they'll continue to sit there forever NOT being violent........until someone picks them up........and that's where the problem lies.......with the individual. And that problem is still a problem regardless of what they "pick up".

Guns, baseball bats, knives, hockey sticks, hammers, etc, etc are NOT the problem. As usual........people are the problem. And not all people.......like everything else the media and liberals like to use to create a crisis.......less than 1% of all those people are the problem. Yet they over react about everything to punish, restrict, and take the rights away from the 99% while the 1% continues in their life of crime regardless what the government does to the 99%......and then they want to release them all from prison while they're at it. You couldn't make this stuff up while on the worst acid trip ever known to man. That's how ridiculous it's all become.

 

[SteveinMN]

The problem with that argument is that you could replace "gun" above with just about anything else........baseball bat, knife, hockey stick, hammer, etc, etc, etc......and doing that doesn't change what the root problem is at all. It's like every time the media and morons say "gun violence". Guns aren't violent........not even a little bit. They just sit there, and they'll continue to sit there forever NOT being violent........until someone picks them up........and that's where the problem lies.......with the individual. And that problem is still a problem regardless of what they "pick up".

Guns, baseball bats, knives, hockey sticks, hammers, etc, etc are NOT the problem. As usual........people are the problem. And not all people.......like everything else the media and liberals like to use to create a crisis.......less than 1% of all those people are the problem. Yet they over react about everything to punish, restrict, and take the rights away from the 99% while the 1% continues in their life of crime regardless what the government does to the 99%......and then they want to release them all from prison while they're at it. You couldn't make this stuff up while on the worst acid trip ever known to man. That's how ridiculous it's all become.

Don't know about you but I'd rather have my spouse coming at me with a hockey stick than a gun.

I agree with you that it's the 1% gun control is aimed at but the impacts have greater effect on the other 99%. I think part of the problem is the posture of crossed arms, stomping feet, and saying 'no' to any and all efforts to reign in gun violence. I think responsible law abiding gun owners like this group need to stop saying "NO!" and start saying things like "well that seems extreme, but how about this more reasonable solution". Unfortunately I don't know what that reasonable solution is, I wish I did.

 

[JShane]

You haven't been paying attention........when they come after conservatives, they send full SWAT teams in the dark of the night.

Then Biden pushing for more gun laws.........ya, if we'd only had a law against shooting 10 people before that happened. Sure.......more laws are the answer. SMH Do these idiots ever think before opening their pie holes?

Perhaps Biden would be OK with Americans taking our nation back, without it being called an insurrection. More appropriately would be called "overcoming treason and a tyrannical government".

I did some research on the SWAT dead of night option. SWAT is a reactionary tool of the agency's that have them. They get activated after it hits the fan. Were such a thing to happen or initiated by the govt. I'm not so sure that red state governor's are gonna back it nor are elected Sheriff's in the first place. Now back to SWAT. full SWAT teams sent in the dark of night will eventually be met by that individual that full intends to go down swinging. I subsequently refer to my previous statement at this point.

I unfortunately believe that these idiots are thinking seven steps ahead before they open their pie holes. Quite honestly I believe they have been thinking ahead since it was discovered that one can legislate themselves power. It's a long and inevitable march towards their will being accomplished. That to me is their mindset. Their always thinking

 

[rbinhood]

The Gov't SHOULD be scared of us. Not vice versa.

Gee, that sounds like the rallying cry of the people who invaded the U.S. Capital. Look where it got 400+ of them, and still counting.

 

[danwattsmessick]

Don't know about you but I'd rather have my spouse coming at me with a hockey stick than a gun.

I agree with you that it's the 1% gun control is aimed at but the impacts have greater effect on the other 99%. I think part of the problem is the posture of crossed arms, stomping feet, and saying 'no' to any and all efforts to reign in gun violence. I think responsible law abiding gun owners like this group need to stop saying "NO!" and start saying things like "well that seems extreme, but how about this more reasonable solution". Unfortunately I don't know what that reasonable solution is, I wish I did.

"Well that seems extreme, but let me allow you to infringe on my rights by offering a 'more reasonable' solution."

At the end of the day, if you give them an inch they'll fight for the mile. When does it stop?

 

[RyanT26]

Ehhh what do you do. Have you seen bidens public land policy though, goddamn it’s great.

 

[TSAMP]

So back to the whole entering your home without permission or a warrant...

 

[TheGDog]

I did some research on the SWAT dead of night option. SWAT is a reactionary tool of the agency's that have them. They get activated after it hits the fan. Were such a thing to happen or initiated by the govt. I'm not so sure that red state governor's are gonna back it nor are elected Sheriff's in the first place. Now back to SWAT. full SWAT teams sent in the dark of night will eventually be met by that individual that full intends to go down swinging. I subsequently refer to my previous statement at this point.

I unfortunately believe that these idiots are thinking seven steps ahead before they open their pie holes. Quite honestly I believe they have been thinking ahead since it was discovered that one can legislate themselves power. It's a long and inevitable march towards their will being accomplished. That to me is their mindset. Their always thinking

HRmm... that is possible no doubt. But it sure does seem more like it's them simply reacting. Reacting in a very public and showy kind of way without any regard to the possible negative and damming outcomes for years to come for their children. But of course... their children are part of "the elite" so this doesn't apply to them, so what do they care.

 

[TheGDog]

Don't know about you but I'd rather have my spouse coming at me with a hockey stick than a gun.

I agree with you that it's the 1% gun control is aimed at but the impacts have greater effect on the other 99%. I think part of the problem is the posture of crossed arms, stomping feet, and saying 'no' to any and all efforts to reign in gun violence. I think responsible law abiding gun owners like this group need to stop saying "NO!" and start saying things like "well that seems extreme, but how about this more reasonable solution". Unfortunately I don't know what that reasonable solution is, I wish I did.

You know what stops gun violence? The same thing that weeds out aggressive domesticated dogs which kill another dog.

If your dog kills another dog, by law, he has to be put down. And that is in order to remove that dogs genes from the gene pool, which over time, results in the dogs remaining being more docile/domesticated/easier to control.

What they NEED to do is allow EVERYONE (who hasn't been adjudicated mentally ill) to carry. Inevitably there will be what I call "the great adjustment period" where fools are gonna push their luck and get taken out like yesterdays garbage. But... I postulate that once we've separated "the wheat from the chafe", those that remain will change-up their game real damn quick.

I mean think about it. If you knew... truly knew.. that no matter where you were... that ANYBODY around you... ANYBODY!... can take you out with the quickness? Such as Gramps sittin' over there in the corner quietly sippin' his Latte? You'll be thinking twice and three times before you try to Act A Fool.

 

[Will_m]

Gee, that sounds like the rallying cry of the people who invaded the U.S. Capital. Look where it got 400+ of them, and still counting.

I think what he meant to say is that the gov't should be scared of us...............because as a voting public, we should control the government. Stated differently, they should be mindful of the power held by the voting public.

 

[robtattoo]

 

[MallardSX2]

Those would be some brave police officers indeed.

 

[Red Letters]

the 1st Amendment was removed rather easily, what two more going to hurt (2nd and 4th)
sarcasm

 

[SMOKYMTN]

See, this is why I never believed the narrative that the police won’t enforce these types of gun laws. They will find some police that will enforce anything.

This is why your sheriff is the most important election you will vote in. There is a reason he is an elected official and not appointed, as he carries the same weight as any other elected official and reports directly to the citizens. He has complete legal jurisdiction over his county and it's up to him to keep the shit from rolling down hill.

 

[5MilesBack]

Unfortunately I don't know what that reasonable solution is, I wish I did.

A good start would be to actually enforce our current laws. Heck, we have a President and administration that won't even enforce the simplist of laws........illegal immigration. Add to that and our judicial system needs a complete overhaul.......the death penalty not only needs to be used, its use needs to be expanded. Beyond the death penalty, we need real penalties.....real deterrents to committing crime. Then they really need to bring back insane asylums.......seems we have an exorbitant number of mentally ill folks running around these days.....on the streets and in government.

Those are just a few areas that need addressing immediately. We need to stop coddling people, and especially criminals. None of that is going to happen, which is why our nation is circling the drain.