Best Scope for long range

[Sloophunter]

I’m looking for scope recommendations using a holdover for long range shots. I’m not a huge fan of dials but am very comfortable with using a holdover.

 

[JJ1179]

I personally like my Swarovski Z5 5-25x52 in the BRH reticle. Works well for me and has been very accurate.

 

[grfox92]

I’m looking for scope recommendations using a holdover for long range shots. I’m not a huge fan of dials but am very comfortable with using a holdover.

Ditch that mentality and learn to dial. If you are comfortable with holdovers for long range you havent shot long range trying hold overs.

How far are you considering long range? Are you talking for hunting or just shooting steel?

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[JJ1179]

Ditch that mentality and learn to dial. If you are comfortable with holdovers for long range you havent shot long range trying hold overs.

How far are you considering long range? Are you talking for hunting or just shooting steel?

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What do you mean, “if you are comfortable with holdovers for long range you haven’t shot long range trying hold overs.”

What’s your idea of long range and what’s your idea of long range with a hold over?

What’s long range with a dial?

 

[Sloophunter]

I’m primarily talking about the 600-800 yard range. Have taken bucks and Antelope over 600 yards using a holdover over and have been very successful. I am looking for scopes that work well using the hold over and involves no dialing

 

[JJ1179]

I have too. My response and questions were for @grfox92.

 

[grfox92]

What do you mean, “if you are comfortable with holdovers for long range you haven’t shot long range trying hold overs.”

What’s your idea of long range and what’s your idea of long range with a hold over?

What’s long range with a dial?

"Holdovers" to me means holding the center if your reticle above your desired point of aim by estimating the amount of inches between your intended point of impact and your reticle. This is a terrible strategy that some people profess they can efficiently execute on live animals at distance.

If your referring to a "Holdover" as using a BDC type reticle with set subtensions, I have heard of guys reliably doing this out to 400 to 500 yards with a lot of practice.

Your average hunting rifle is dropping 4 feet at 500 yards. No one is estimating 48 to 50 inches of holdover at 500 yards and having first round impacts on MOA size targets. Thats what I meant by my initial statelement.



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[grfox92]

I’m primarily talking about the 600-800 yard range. Have taken bucks and Antelope over 600 yards using a holdover over and have been very successful. I am looking for scopes that work well using the hold over and involves no dialing

Are you talking about using subtensions in a reticle to adjust your point of aim?

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[JJ1179]

Yes, that’s what I was referring to. The Swarovski scopes offer BRH and BRX reticles with sub-tensions. Use them in conjunction with their app and your desired load, and they’re very accurate.

 

[Sloophunter]

Yeah using sub-tensions is exactly what I’m talking about. That’s all I’ve ever used and it has worked well for me. Im trying to decide between a maven or Swarovski

 

[natedock1]

I’m looking for scope recommendations using a holdover for long range shots. I’m not a huge fan of dials but am very comfortable with using a holdover.

That’s crazy…a dial is much easier than holding over and guessing. Get a leupold with the custom dial feature and you will be spot on

 

[JJ1179]

Who's guessing? There’s no guessing involved use the appropriate “crosshair” and shoot. Way easier than dialing.

 

[grfox92]

Who's guessing? There’s no guessing involved use the appropriate “crosshair” and shoot. Way easier than dialing.

Im not trying to start an argument, but you probably think it's easier because you have never done it. 1 year ago I had never dialed a scope in my life. Now, never I would never in my wildest dreams think of going out to hunt without the ability to dial. It is 100x easier once you know what you are doing.

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[JJ1179]

My apologies. That comment was not intended towards you.

And, yes, I have dialed. I own a NF that dials. IMHO it’s definitely not easier, and like you in an opposite direction, I would never go back from a hold over reticle with sub-tension to a dial.

I think both have their strengths and weaknesses and both have their places in a hunting application.

 

[grfox92]

My apologies. That comment was not intended towards you.

And, yes, I have dialed. I own a NF that dials. IMHO it’s definitely not easier, and like you in an opposite direction, I would never go back from a hold over reticle with sub-tension to a dial.

I think both have their strengths and weaknesses and both have their places in a hunting application.

I can respect that. Whatever works best for you is what best.

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[JJ1179]

For sure. And, based on the OP’s original question, I was just offering my opinion and suggestion.

 

[Wrench]

Speed is great and holdover is faster for sure.... but if you're swinging in the .75 seconds TOF or more, precision becomes important and environmentals are dynamic. I personally would dial elevation and make micro adjustments as needed for conditions as opposed to trying to settle the last few tenths out in open space in my reticle.....but I do not shoot a horus at critters. I would much prefer to be on the subtensions for wind and ride the reticle for elevation.