Best hunting long range scope

[roadrunner]

So you saying a 10x scope would be illegal. I find that hard to believe. Every scope made has an easily adjustable turret if you have even the slightest amount of brain power.

10x isn't much different than a 9x. Talking about 16x's + with adhustable turrets that make a 750 yd shot a cake walk.

The adjustable turret in this case are the ones that easily adjust by simply turning a knob indexed for quick reference, much like a slider used in archery and not the turrets used for normal sight in.

 

[roadrunner]

Utah and who else?

My post said NM...

 

[CorbLand]

10x isn't much different than a 9x. Talking about 16x's + with adhustable turrets that make a 750 yd shot a cake walk.

The adjustable turret in this case are the ones that easily adjust by simply turning a knob indexed for quick reference, much like a slider used in archery and not the turrets used for normal sight in.

Virtually every scope has adjustable turrets, what you are looking to say is exposed turrets. If they did pass a law for those, people would simply put a cap over them.


Also, it is important to say that Utah and NM put restrictions on muzzleloaders...not rifles. Just because they are restricting one season doesnt mean they will others.

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

Western animals need the help. While it would render many of my guns/scopes useless for hunting, I wouldn’t mind seeing some serious regulations limiting our equipment. We’ve become too lethal and combined with extreme weather, predation, winter range development, and all the other challenges, the critters need a break. We don’t have the game populations to support unlimited equipment anymore. It’s either equipment limitations or tag cuts and further lack of opportunity. I’d prefer the former. I’d shed no tears at some sensible regulations imposed on equipment:

Archery- 3 fixed pins max.
ML- no scopes, no sabots, loose powder.
Rifle- 4x max scope magnification and no exposed turrets.

Where are you hunting that "western animals need the help"? Maybe this discussion should be moved to a separate thread since this is a guy looking for scope recommendation...

To the OP... I believe you stated that 600 yards would be your maximum range? First I'd obviously recommend becoming proficient at that distance in actual hunting/field shooting positions. In my opinion, 400+ yards starts to get to a distance that the VAST majority of hunters should not be shooting at big game animals due to lack of proficiency.

For the scope, on big game animals the SWFA fixed 6 would be my personal choice for your stated yardages. As a combo target shooting/predator/big game rifle I'd probably go up to the SWFA 3-9.

 

[SDHNTR]

Where are you hunting that "western animals need the help"? Maybe this discussion should be moved to a separate thread since this is a guy looking for scope recommendation...

To the OP... I believe you stated that 600 yards would be your maximum range? First I'd obviously recommend becoming proficient at that distance in actual hunting/field shooting positions. In my opinion, 400+ yards starts to get to a distance that the VAST majority of hunters should not be shooting at big game animals due to lack of proficiency.

For the scope, on big game animals the SWFA fixed 6 would be my personal choice for your stated yardages. As a combo target shooting/predator/big game rifle I'd probably go up to the SWFA 3-9.

Yes, sorry OP, this should be a different thread. But to answer the question, pretty much everywhere in the west the animals need the help! Especially mule deer!

 

[KurtR]

10x isn't much different than a 9x. Talking about 16x's + with adhustable turrets that make a 750 yd shot a cake walk.

The adjustable turret in this case are the ones that easily adjust by simply turning a knob indexed for quick reference, much like a slider used in archery and not the turrets used for normal sight in.

Nothing i cant kill with a 10x scope out to 1000 yds. Isnt every turret indexed for quick reference i guess i have never seen a blank turret

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

Yes, sorry OP, this should be a different thread. But to answer the question, pretty much everywhere in the west the animals need the help! Especially mule deer!

I hunted 4 states last year (Arizona, California, Wyoming, and Minnesota). 3 out of those 4 I was either hunting mule deer or was in mule deer country for significant amount of time between scouting, backpacking, and actual hunting.

All 3 of those states had incredible deer numbers in the areas I hunted. Was especially surprised with the number of bucks, and deer in general, that I saw in Wyoming this September.

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

10x isn't much different than a 9x. Talking about 16x's + with adhustable turrets that make a 750 yd shot a cake walk.

The adjustable turret in this case are the ones that easily adjust by simply turning a knob indexed for quick reference, much like a slider used in archery and not the turrets used for normal sight in.

If you think a "16x with adjustable turret makes a 750 yard shot a cake walk" you are obviously a VERY inexperienced long range killer.

 

[JohnJohnson]

10x isn't much different than a 9x. Talking about 16x's + with adhustable turrets that make a 750 yd shot a cake walk.

The adjustable turret in this case are the ones that easily adjust by simply turning a knob indexed for quick reference, much like a slider used in archery and not the turrets used for normal sight in.

I don't mean to be too direct but you have no clue what you're talking about.

 

[fwafwow]

Two states.

So you are inferring

 

[StupidLightweight]

Wow, I'm blown away. I just looked at Utah's 2024 regulations. Better sell your high-magnification scopes now...

R657-5-8. Rifles, Shotguns, Airguns, and Crossbows.

(1) A rifle used to hunt big game must:

(a) fire centerfire cartridges and expanding bullets; and

(b) have no attachment capable of electronic function, other than illuminated reticles.

(c) use a scope no more powerful than 9.9X

(d) fire a cartridge just powerful enough to cleanly kill game but,

(e) unable to kill beyond fair chase hunting distances, which is defined as:

(f) when the hunter is so far away from the quarry that he can stand around and have a cigarette, slam the car door, and talk in full voice because the game has no chance to use its natural defenses to alert to danger. It's like porn — tough to define, but you have a good idea when you see it.

(2) A shotgun used to hunt big game must:

(a) be 20 gauge or larger;

(b) fire only 00 or larger buckshot or slug ammunition; and

(c) have no attachment capable of electronic function, other than illuminated reticles.

 

[Laelkhunter]

Wow, I'm blown away. I just looked at Utah's 2024 regulations. Better sell your high-magnification scopes now...

R657-5-8. Rifles, Shotguns, Airguns, and Crossbows.

(1) A rifle used to hunt big game must:

(a) fire centerfire cartridges and expanding bullets; and

(b) have no attachment capable of electronic function, other than illuminated reticles.

(c) use a scope no more powerful than 9.9X

(d) fire a cartridge just powerful enough to cleanly kill game but,

(e) unable to kill beyond fair chase hunting distances, which is defined as:

(f) when the hunter is so far away from the quarry that he can stand around and have a cigarette, slam the car door, and talk in full voice because the game has no chance to use its natural defenses to alert to danger. It's like porn — tough to define, but you have a good idea when you see it.

(2) A shotgun used to hunt big game must:

(a) be 20 gauge or larger;

(b) fire only 00 or larger buckshot or slug ammunition; and

(c) have no attachment capable of electronic function, other than illuminated reticles.

You forgot the addendum: "Roksliders are exempt from these regulations".

 

[JohnJohnson]

OP I'm so sorry your thread got derailed and I promise I won't meme about him past this.

But he watched one episode of Gunwerks on Youtube and it had him like this:

 

[roadrunner]

I don't mean to be too direct but you have no clue what you're talking about.

I don't mean to be too direct either, but your reading comprehension is questionable.

Large sight picture and no guess work with hold over.

Take a 3x9 BDC reticle that maxes out at 600 yds and then come talk to me how easy that 750 yd shot is with holdover. Then take that same shot with 16x magnification dialed in to be dead on at 750 yds and then compare to thenother scope and come talk to me how cake walk that shot was.

By the way, you only get one chance to put that bullet into a 12" circle...

 

[roadrunner]

If you think a "16x with adjustable turret makes a 750 yard shot a cake walk" you are obviously a VERY inexperienced long range killer.

Obviously

So you are inferring

Simply stating that states are starting to sit up and take notice is all...

 

[JohnJohnson]

I don't mean to be too direct either, but your reading comprehension is questionable.

Large sight picture and no guess work with hold over.

Take a 3x9 BDC reticle that maxes out at 600 yds and then come talk to me how easy that 750 yd shot is with holdover. Then take that same shot with 16x magnification dialed in to be dead on at 750 yds and then compare to thenother scope and come talk to me how cake walk that shot was.

By the way, you only get one chance to put that bullet into a 12" circle...

When was the last time you shot out to 750 yards in that manner? How often can you hit a 12" circle at that range? What is your experience in any of this?

 

[roadrunner]

Virtually every scope has adjustable turrets, what you are looking to say is exposed turrets. If they did pass a law for those, people would simply put a cap over them.


Also, it is important to say that Utah and NM put restrictions on muzzleloaders...not rifles. Just because they are restricting one season doesnt mean they will others.

They haven't, yet. Maybe they never will. The conversations have begun though, make no mistake.

Yes, exposed turrets for quick adjustment and reference.

 

[roadrunner]

When was the last time you shot out to 750 yards in that manner? How often can you hit a 12" circle at that range? What is your experience in any of this?

We aren't discussing whether or not it can be done. We're discussing which is easier to do. Pretty obvious which one is. Try and keep up.

Do I need to post up a meme for you?

 

[roadrunner]

Nothing i cant kill with a 10x scope out to 1000 yds. Isnt every turret indexed for quick reference i guess i have never seen a blank turret

You aren't adjusting your factory turret that stays under a cap unexposed to dirt and grime with a quarter or small screwdriver for every shot you make either.

 

[KurtR]

You aren't adjusting your factory turret that stays under a cap unexposed to dirt and grime with a quarter or small screwdriver for every shot you make either.

Unless you are still using scopes from the 1980 or use junk scopes most are finger adjustable when you remove the cap. Your really showing your lack of knowledge here .