Best do it all arrow setup for upcoming hunting season? (AK, MT)

[Wristslapper67]

Hey yall I have a very exciting upcoming hunting season. I have a spring black bear hunt in AK, fall moose hunt in AK, then back to MT for antelope and elk. Looking for an ideal arrow, arrow weight and broad head setup to cover all my bases here. I am between an HLR and RIP TKO in a 300 spine. Going to shoot a fixed head for moose and elk (thinking 125 grain day six evo or iron will). mechanical for antelope, bear, and deer ( thinking of trying out the 125 grain G5 T2). HIT inserts, lighted knocks and thinking of trying out the DCA mini sabre vanes. Also would be shooting for 3D events! Open to any suggestions opinions or shit talk you may have!

 

[Eastonsgrandpa]

TKO is more durable, HLR lighter.

Since you are going HIT inserts (smart move) make sure to put a collar on the end. My favorite collars are from Iron Will.

As far as weight, for me it’s over 400 and under 450. Your broadhead choices are solid, though I’d also suggest you look at the Evolution Outdoors Hyde.

 

[Fadeaduno]

On the same boat as eastonsgrandpa rip tko hit inserts with collars I do run and have had great luck with evolution outdoors both Jekyll and Hyde 125g about 440g taw

 

[UncleNommies]

Ive hunted with VAP TKO and HLRs. Ive had too many vaps break and swapped to the HLR to use Ironwill inserts instead of outserts. Im at 250 spine with 70 lb, 30.5 DL. My arrows are 480g, bohning alpha vanes, max left helical, iron will titanium inserts/collars, 10g back weight, 150g left hand single bevel broadhead. This is by far the best combination I've came up with for my application! Slightly lighter shafts and a tad more weigh up front and they are absolute tack drivers. Field points and broadhead have same POI at 60.

 

[Insomnia]

For the game you're shooting, I second the Evolution Hyde. Though, I am a pretty big fan of Evolution Outdoors products. I actually went away from the arrow setup I've been shooting for the past few years and went to a VAP TKO simply because there are enough glue-in options between the Jekyll, Hyde, Whitetail Fury and the turkey head that I can finally just run glue-in heads without messing with inserts or HITs or outserts and still have a skinnier shaft. I was running .204 shafts with HIT inserts and heads both hot melted in previously, and this system is still in my mind the best, most concentric, most failproof .204 system that lets you run every broadhead on the market.

 

[Insomnia]

Also to add, what's your bow setup? Model, draw length, poundage?

 

[Bump79]

Hey yall I have a very exciting upcoming hunting season. I have a spring black bear hunt in AK, fall moose hunt in AK, then back to MT for antelope and elk. Looking for an ideal arrow, arrow weight and broad head setup to cover all my bases here. I am between an HLR and RIP TKO in a 300 spine. Going to shoot a fixed head for moose and elk (thinking 125 grain day six evo or iron will). mechanical for antelope, bear, and deer ( thinking of trying out the 125 grain G5 T2). HIT inserts, lighted knocks and thinking of trying out the DCA mini sabre vanes. Also would be shooting for 3D events! Open to any suggestions opinions or shit talk you may have!

Do you have all of these options already, or are you just evaluating?

What's your bow IBO, DL, DW?

 

[dirtknap]

I shoot a 570 gr arrow at 270 fps out of old chill r. No experience on moose yet, but great results on many bull elk and a few bucks/bears. Ive used many different broadheads from gravediggers to magnus buzzcut stingers, trypans, exodus, valkyrie 150 gr. with excellent results. I shoot a 250 spine xtorsion 13 gpi. 570 gr. Fly great and pin gap isnt too big with a 5 pin slider. Might try a 620 gr. Arrow this year topped with a two blade 150 gr killer bee buzzcut. I bought them for my tradbows, decided to shoot a few out of the compound. They fly like field points and im sure they'll have great penetration. Need to chronograph them.

The key, I believe, is a heavy arrow at a good speed. They carry more momentum at distance and judging by the "arrow energy" calculators online, most of today's 70 lb. Bows produce upwards of 90 ft. Pounds- enough to kill an elephant.

The 650 gr. Hype is real. My buddys brother from Missouri came up archery hunting elk a few years back. He is an ER doctor and combat veteran. Awesome guy. He purposely shot his bull in the knuckle of the front shoulder at 50 yds. Quartering to. 650 gr. Grizzlystik topped w/single bevel massai. Out of mathews halon. Arrow blew threw the middle of the shoulder, breaking through the heaviest bone and completely passed thru- he couldn't find the arrow! I shot them, but ended up having bad groups past 50-60 yds...and the pin gaps were big/arrow flight slow. Ive used trypans with perfect flight out past 90. Pick ur poison, and shoot straight

 

[Bump79]

I shoot a 570 gr arrow at 270 fps out of old chill r. No experience on moose yet, but great results on many bull elk and a few bucks/bears. Ive used many different broadheads from gravediggers to magnus buzzcut stingers, trypans, exodus, valkyrie 150 gr. with excellent results. I shoot a 250 spine xtorsion 13 gpi. 570 gr. Fly great and pin gap isnt too big with a 5 pin slider. Might try a 620 gr. Arrow this year topped with a two blade 150 gr killer bee buzzcut. I bought them for my tradbows, decided to shoot a few out of the compound. They fly like field points and im sure they'll have great penetration. Need to chronograph them.

The key, I believe, is a heavy arrow at a good speed. They carry more momentum at distance and judging by the "arrow energy" calculators online, most of today's 70 lb. Bows produce upwards of 90 ft. Pounds- enough to kill an elephant.

The 650 gr. Hype is real. My buddys brother from Missouri came up archery hunting elk a few years back. He is an ER doctor and combat veteran. Awesome guy. He purposely shot his bull in the knuckle of the front shoulder at 50 yds. Quartering to. 650 gr. Grizzlystik topped w/single bevel massai. Out of mathews halon. Arrow blew threw the middle of the shoulder, breaking through the heaviest bone and completely passed thru- he couldn't find the arrow! I shot them, but ended up having bad groups past 50-60 yds...and the pin gaps were big/arrow flight slow. Ive used trypans with perfect flight out past 90. Pick ur poison, and shoot straight

That's a killer setup.

Personally, I tested it and the heavy 2b hype wasn't for me. More cons than positives I could identify.

 

[dirtknap]

That's a killer setup.

Personally, I tested it and the heavy 2b hype wasn't for me. More cons than positives I could identify.

Agreed for a compound.

 

[TheHammer]

I have found the hlr to not be durable. My vote in the victory line is the rip ss. I also have yet to break a victory uv and find them to be quite durable. Out of 12, 7 held advertised tolerances, no notable flight issues by the naked eye.

 

[blackveltbowhunter]

The TKO is the better "all around" setup IMO. Unless the weight is costing too much in speed the tko all day.

450 give or take.

I like the evolution jekyll and hyde combo for your setup personally. Same ferule you can run them all in a quiver they fit clean and fly like darts. Unless your running a lower energy setup which I assume your not given the 300 spine.