Best Bullet GR Weight for Black Bear with 300 WM

[30338]

From 600-700 yds? There wont be a shot opportunity anyway because the damn things never stop moving…

Had one walk out on a rock slide at 600 yards one morning. I was dialed and prone and he stopped for long seconds eating acorns off a single oak in the slide. A 195 eol dropped that one right there. So it can happen. But you are right, mostly they never stop wandering.

 

[medvedyt]

This is literally what you want.

not really: if you are eating the meat you do not want any bullet residues ...

 

[z987k]

not really: if you are eating the meat you do not want any bullet residues ...

Then don't use lead.

 

[medvedyt]

Then don't use lead.

that is why i wrote lessons learnt previously ...

 

[Mike D Texas]

not really: if you are eating the meat you do not want any bullet residues ...

Oh boy, here we go.


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[medvedyt]

Oh boy, here we go.


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everybody can see the life differently and even you can change his mind thus the reason i moved from lead to copper ...

 

[Mike D Texas]

everybody can see the life differently and even you can change his mind thus the reason i moved from lead to copper ...

I don’t disagree but I have not seen one single study that conclusively convinced me that lead ingestion from wild game killed with lead projectiles have any detrimental effects on humans.

We eat nothing but game meat in our family for 40+ years, killed with lead bullets and not one person has ever had concerns raised at annual medical visits.

Given that, I will continue to use lead bullets as they have proven to be more effective at killing animals in my personal experience.

 

[medvedyt]

I don’t disagree but I have not seen one single study that conclusively convinced me that lead ingestion from wild game killed with lead projectiles have any detrimental effects on humans.

We eat nothing but game meat in our family for 40+ years, killed with lead bullets and not one person has ever had concerns raised at annual medical visits.

Given that, I will continue to use lead bullets as they have proven to be more effective at killing animals in my personal experience.

Chronic Lead Intoxication From Eating Wild-Harvested Game - PubMed

Unsafe blood lead levels can occur from eating game harvested with lead ammunition. Physicians should warn hunting patients of this potential risk and counsel them about the availability of nonlead ammunition alternatives.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

https://www.amjmed.com/article/S0002-9343(16)30021-3/pdf

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S000293431731224X

Risk of lead exposure from wild game consumption from cross-sectional studies in Madre de Dios, Peru - PMC

Studies have shown elevated blood lead levels (BLL) in residents of remote communities in the Amazon, yet sources of lead exposure are not fully understood, such as lead ammunition consumed in wild game. Data was collected during two cross-sectional ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

A perspective of lead poisoning in antiquity and the present - PubMed

Seen in perspective, it is evident that lead poisoning is one of the earliest occupational diseases, described already thousands of years ago. The first major upswing in the history of anthropogenic production of lead was associated with the development of the Greco-Roman culture and the most...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[BRWNBR]

200 plus bears I’ve killed or been present for their demise.
Literally. Any bullet from your 300. Thru a black bear will die it. ANY. Bullet. Read it again. Lock this thread.

 

[WillieWildCat]

For clarification, I shoot long range 1000+ at the range very consistantly with the Berger 215gr Berger. Obviously anything longer than 400 yards is not ideal but is very possible with terrain considerations ect. Max COAL is just under the max mag lengeth of the Bergara is roughly 3.70". I don't want to end up having a bear run off into the river ect. Anyone have any experience with the Berger 205 Elite Hunter?

 

[WillieWildCat]

Twist Rate is 1:10

 

[WillieWildCat]

As I understand it, shots greater than 300 yards are somewhat common in the world of hunting Black Bear? I have never hunted them as for the inital question at the begining of the thread. Open to any and all opinions on the matter.

 

[wapitibob]

I would use either Berger myself. A 150-160 solid going about 3500 should work well too. I will use a 195 Berger from a 7stw in a cpl weeks.