Best 10mm models

FlyingScot

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Why not look at a Ruger 10mm revolver if your sold on the 10? Or a good old S&W 657 4" mountain gun in 41 mag or S&W 629 mountain gun in 44 mag. 10's are very expensive to shoot, wally world is a source for 44 ammo usually cheap. The auto has its place and will work but a field gun is likely to get shot once or twice ? Either the 41 and 44 have more power and have tailored loads for purchase for big bear defense.

If a revolver is what you want, 10mm doesn't make a ton of sense unless you already have others in the stable and want to share ammo, nevermind how awful the moonclips you need for a rimless case can be when they get the slightest bit bent. I'd go straight to a .41 or .44 mag, as you said.

If you're willing to look beyond Walmart, ammo cost is very much in the favor of 10mm. You can find 10mm (Magtech, S&B, etc) for $0.28/round, while the cheapest .44 mag is all $0.40/round and up.

Proper 10mm is absolutely on par with .41 magnum, but that's been discussed quite a bit on here. That said, just as we overthink our rifle caliber choices (and it's a lot of fun to do so on here!), we keep right on going when it comes to handguns. Far as I know, there isn't any proper tracking of hunting sidearm defense use, but for those that have done the digging, they confirm the universal truth that shot placement and having sufficient penetration to reach the vitals are king, everything else is just icing on the cake.

Having a bigger entry wound and larger wound channel as the bullet expands are certainly good things, but not at the expense of being able to put repeated shots through the boiler room until the threat is dead or running. Leaving capacity out of it (if you need 15 rounds, I think fate has it out for you anyways), proficiently shooting a DA revolver both quickly and accurately is very rewarding, but it takes way more practice and focus than typical semiautomatics. I'd wager most hunters using their sidearm to defend themselves, who practice with their pistols a few times a year if at all, are likely going to be in short supply of both at the time.

Edit: Don’t mean to sound like I’m crapping on wheelguns, I’m very much a fan! Just not for this purpose!
 
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You can go watch hickock45s video with the 10mm, he was getting a lot of tumbling and I believe some failures to feed with the 220g....until he switched barrels.

I’ve also experienced the same so it’s not an old wives tale.
Now you are spreading even more rumors. Hickok 45 found that Garret 230gr hardcast wouldn't stabilize in a Glock barrel - nothing to do with leading. He found that Buffalo Bore 220g hardcast stabilized and shot great out of both stock Glock 20 & 29.
 
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You should write a book on it then because there are zillions of glock shooters using hardcast.
Also, you really should take a look at your bullet fit since you can consistently screw up.


Sir, you need to call Glock directly, they will tell you they do NOT recommend lead or hardcast bullets in their barrels.

It ain't me that is giving bad advice bro- I'm repeating legit info from Glock and friends that tested it.

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Ever have a revolver jam up after walking through a ton of willows? I have.
Plus, 15 rounds of 10mm over 6 rounds of .41/.44. Plus I’ll happily take my Glock over my 329pd, much less a steel frame revolver. And you can EDC the Glock much easier than an N frame.

Just my experience, of course YRMV.


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Ive got the 329 PD and G20 as well and im 98% G20 these days. Both have Guides choice chest rigs, but the G20 just checks all the boxes a little better for me personally.
That 329 is a bad beast for sure though. Feel guilty when i dont take her out at least once a season anymore.
 

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Sir, you need to call Glock directly, they will tell you they do NOT recommend lead or hardcast bullets in their barrels.

It ain't me that is giving bad advice bro- I'm repeating legit info from Glock and friends that tested it.

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Glock says not to shoot reloaded ammunition.
Your friends need to shoot more.....
 

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Now you are spreading even more rumors. Hickok 45 found that Garret 230gr hardcast wouldn't stabilize in a Glock barrel - nothing to do with leading. He found that Buffalo Bore 220g hardcast stabilized and shot great out of both stock Glock 20 & 29.

Nope speaking g feommmy own experiences as well as many videos. So not spreading rumors at all.
 

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Glock says not to shoot reloaded ammunition.
Your friends need to shoot more.....

Anyone is free to call the Glock tech line and verify.

Now to the whole ammo thing in general, Its true there is many different scenarios on this hardcast ammo....and it makes sense as the cartridges and bullets vary wildly. Then there are the chambers and feed ramps themselves- another semi auto variable. It really is up to each guy to function check with each weapon to make sure there isn't any problems... a necessity really.

Buffalo Bore has a tech article saying that there is not a problem with their ammo fouling a polygonal barrel going against Glocks blanket warranty disclaimer.

I do think Tim [at BB] knows what he is talking about and trust his ammo.......just understand Glocks stance right now shooting it voids your warranty....though no doubt any modification does the same.

The bullets tumbling thing is real...and of course it varies per the weapon and cartridge. Just like 1) bullet creep is real with some revolvers 2) feeding problems with wide meplat bullets and 3) bullet setback in some semi autos...all known issues. I personally seen some polygonal barrels shoot fine...and some the bullets tumble.

Best to function check.....Just because one guy on the internet claims it hasn't happened to them...doesn't mean its not a potential issue.

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I do think Tim [at BB] knows what he is talking about and trust his ammo.......just understand Glocks stance right now shooting it voids your warranty....

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So now you are saying that shooting Buffalo Bore hardcast ammo voids your warranty?

I've reread the Glock owners manual a couple times today and it says in 3 places that shooting anything other than commercially manufactured ammo will void your warranty. Not a word about hard cast.
 

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So now you are saying that shooting Buffalo Bore hardcast ammo voids your warranty?

I've reread the Glock owners manual a couple times today and it says in 3 places that shooting anything other than commercially manufactured ammo will void your warranty. Not a word about hard cast.

You sure like to argue...call Glock...
 

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A Glock with the new smaller frame. Unless youve tried the old large grip, like it, and DONT have someone with smaller hands who may want/NEED to shoot it. Smaller means “not large” not actually “small”...
 

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Glock 20 on a blade-tech level 3 retention holster with mole attachment to a Kifaru belt/pack. Did quite a bit of research on ammo and went with the Underwood ammo solid copper penetrators. The 140 grainers were getting the same muzzle energy as the 220grain buffalo bore if I remember correctly, about 700ft lbs. The penetration testing videos I watched were damn impressive.

Been a couple years, but I believe buffalo bore recommend using a stiffer recoil spring on the gen 3 glock 20’s. My G20 is a gen 4 so it shouldn’t have been a problem, but once I found the Underwood’s I figured that was a great alternative.
 

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The Smith and Wesson 10 Series. 1006 and 1066 my favorites but all the others were excellent too. Built to the 10mm Cartridge and not adapted from other calibers. Built like tanks, can handle anything the 10mm can throw at it. Heavy to control recoil and thin in the grip. You can still get factory mags from the factory and the company is still in business.


The Glock 20 and 29 get my honorable mention spot because well, they're Glocks and can both be hicaps but the fattness of the grip is something I don't like and I carried a G29 for quite a while.
 

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The Smith and Wesson 10 Series. 1006 and 1066 my favorites but all the others were excellent too. Built to the 10mm Cartridge and not adapted from other calibers. Built like tanks, can handle anything the 10mm can throw at it. Heavy to control recoil and thin in the grip. You can still get factory mags from the factory and the company is still in business.

This is a damn good (and way underrated) recommendation as well.
 
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My experience confirmed the “old wives tale.” I was shooting Beartooth PileDriver Juniors in my stock G20 barrel, and a safe load with a clean barrel would show signs of excessive pressure before a full magazine was shot through it. Usually, by the 9th or 10th round, the primers were very flat, and the infamous Glock smile started showing up. Fouling was evident in the barrel by then, and cleaning the barrel would give me another 9-10 rounds before pressure signs showed up. I could do this all day long with clock-like repeatability!

YMMV, but my extensive load testing confirmed the “old wives tale” consistently.

I get the Glock smiley on rounds with low recoil buffalo bore copper ammo. Perhaps the higher pressure is related to the flat nose of the bullet rather than due to the bullets being hardcast?
 
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