Berger Elite hunter

I shot a Caribou a few years back with a 140gr EH from my 6.5 Creedmoor. ‘Bou was at a fast trot about 200 yards out and I managed to put one through the lungs. He managed maybe 30 more yards before he was done. This bullet provided more destruction than any bullet I have ever used, with severe bloodshot on both the entrance and exit sides. It was almost too much. They shoot really well, and killed really well but I haven’t shot a critter with them since.

John

 
Another buck that fell to the 140 EH out of my 6.5x284. First shot was at a 325 thru the lungs and likely would have been the only one needed. He was on a little death run headed to the bottom of a deep steep canyon. He had two more put in him so we didn't have to hike to the bottom and back out.
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I shoot 300 grain elite hunters out of my 338 rum and they have always done the job as least as well as expected in ranges from 200-1024 yards on more animals than I can remember.
 
As opposed to some on here, we have shot multiple deer, elk and mountain goat on the shoulder with 6.5 berger 140 vld. All worked very well. I have no fear of shoulders shooting them. Just penetrate 3" and go unhinged typically. At longer ranges, they will expand and actually hold together a bit when impact gets under 2,000 fps.
 
This is a 6.5 PRC with the 140 Elite Hunter. 200 yard shot on Antelope. I’ll never use this bullet again. Quickly went to the 147 ELDM and used for hunting this past deer season. They did really well. Currently working on developing a 150 ABLR combo. Personally, I would stay away from Berger for hunting purposes.
 

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You can't shoot heavy bones with Berger. Or you get 🍔 burger. You catch a shoulder with a Berger and the quarter is usually a bloodshot mess. I don't shoot them at all at smaller deer because they wreck shit. Animals are dead but a guy really needs to stick em in the ribs. I stick to ballistic tips for antelope. The eld-m worked good? I shoot the 168 out of my 308 and its awesome on deer. But its going slow so no splash boom effect at 2675 fps.
 
You can't shoot heavy bones with Berger. Or you get 🍔 burger. You catch a shoulder with a Berger and the quarter is usually a bloodshot mess. I don't shoot them at all at smaller deer because they wreck shit. Animals are dead but a guy really needs to stick em in the ribs. I stick to ballistic tips for antelope. The eld-m worked good? I shoot the 168 out of my 308 and its awesome on deer. But its going slow so no splash boom effect at 2675 fps.
Oh wow yeah that’s slow but I’m sure it’s fine. Mine are only going 2835. But accuracy is ridiculous. They did well though. Everything that was hit dropped immediately. Ranged were 100-250ish. The one thing I didn’t like is after impact it traveled through guts down to ham and destroyed all the guts. Shots were all lungs. They all did the same thing. Working on developing a load up for the 150 ABLR now.
 
ABLR can be finicky in some rifles. If you're handloading them, seat them ar standard magazine length. They like jump. And they shoot really well from 2850 to 3100 fps. If a guy pushes em hard to 3200 or higher they get fliers. My Browning X-bolt long range 7 mag loves the 168 ABLR. My son took his first elk last year with it. 616 yds. Perfect double lung 🫁 pass thru with a silver dollar exit hole. We've beem shooting them out of 5 different rifles from 6 5 to 300 win mag and they have been awesome. Retain around 50-60% and leave a great wound channel in their wake. Soft under a 100 yds so don't shoot the shoulders unless you have to. On the bright side they're bonded so We've had pass through shoulder bones and blades on elk without issues.
 
ABLR can be finicky in some rifles. If you're handloading them, seat them ar standard magazine length. They like jump. And they shoot really well from 2850 to 3100 fps. If a guy pushes em hard to 3200 or higher they get fliers. My Browning X-bolt long range 7 mag loves the 168 ABLR. My son took his first elk last year with it. 616 yds. Perfect double lung 🫁 pass thru with a silver dollar exit hole. We've beem shooting them out of 5 different rifles from 6 5 to 300 win mag and they have been awesome. Retain around 50-60% and leave a great wound channel in their wake. Soft under a 100 yds so don't shoot the shoulders unless you have to. On the bright side they're bonded so We've had pass through shoulder bones and blades on elk without issues.
Yeah agree they are finicky lot to lot I think. But nephew switched from the 143 ELDX to the 142s and they are very accurate and terminally I think they are hard to beat everything he got this last year all dropped and all pass through. From 150-370 yards for him. He has them going about 2880. Right now the 150s I have are averaging 2910 and accuracy is about 1/3 or less”. Hoping to do another confirmation test next week. I think I have them between .032-.038 Off and then there’s another sweet spot .058-.064 Off. trying longer first.
 
ABLR can be finicky in some rifles. If you're handloading them, seat them ar standard magazine length. They like jump. And they shoot really well from 2850 to 3100 fps. If a guy pushes em hard to 3200 or higher they get fliers. My Browning X-bolt long range 7 mag loves the 168 ABLR. My son took his first elk last year with it. 616 yds. Perfect double lung 🫁 pass thru with a silver dollar exit hole. We've beem shooting them out of 5 different rifles from 6 5 to 300 win mag and they have been awesome. Retain around 50-60% and leave a great wound channel in their wake. Soft under a 100 yds so don't shoot the shoulders unless you have to. On the bright side they're bonded so We've had pass through shoulder bones and blades on elk without issues.
My rifles are just the opposite with the ABLR. I can’t tell you how many I wasted sending them down range only to get 2-3” groups out of a known sub-MOA rifles jumping them from .040-.120”. I was fireforming some 338 Norma to make improved cases and shot this group with them jammed in the lands.

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Since then I’ve seated them no more than .020” off the lands with similar results.
 
Good shooting Mike!! Yeah a guy has to sort them but they are fantastic killers!! I really like them! If they would shoot out of all my rifles I'd shoot only those. Don't push em hard. Give em some jump and go kill stuff.
 
175 elite hunter out of a 7 saum works great for whitetail and hogs. Haven't used on anything bigger but would be my choice if I had the opportunity.
Same 175s out of 7wsm. Shot uphill 503 yards at a bull, lower entry, higher exit and it punched a hole in the offside you could fit a coke can through, he was down by the time I had another round loaded. Shot a white tail a couple years ago at 120ish yards, no exit, went about 20 yards. Have two does that fell over on the spot with large exit wounds.
 
Shooting the 156 Elite hunter out a PRC and they have performed really well. They are dramatic but kill fast. I have hit a couple shoulders without issue but usually try to avoid it.

430yd exit near the base of the neck.
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