Berger Elite hunter

[NorCal 707]

No shit! But when you're hunting with excited kids stuff happens. Like I said, for me, as a meat eater, I'll stick to a more controlled expansion bullet. I shoot some Bergers on elk and mule deer, but I won't use them on small deer like Blacktail, Coues or antelope. I've just had too many bad experiences. My daughter killed her first elk with a 175 Elite Hunter from my 280 AI. Worked great. The angle caught the shoulder on the exit but elk are so big it didn't mess it all up or bloodshot it too bad.