Beginner fly rod

Maybe the issues are a bit more recent. I took a Rio flats pro to Mexico last summer and it got all chewed up and we weren’t even fishing over coral, just catching mid size bonefish and baby tarpon. I also had a 9wt with an SA grand slam that looks like it’s new even after 3 separate saltwater trips. When I was in Hawaii fishing for bone fish last winter, the guide said he’d given up on Rio lines for the same reason.
As a former Rio guy, about 5 years ago I basically moved all my single hand lines to SA. RIO just wasn’t holding up like they used to. For freshwater applications I’ve been really happy with their amplitude lineup.
 
Sage, loomis and Scott Ross start in the ~ 6-700 dollar range….great rods all of them but not really what I’d call a beginner rod for somebody who wants to see if they like it.

I suggest going out and trying some rods if at all possible, they aren’t all the same/equal. Within brands, there are certain models that are better and within models of rods there are certain weights that just perform better.

One of my least favorite rods I’ve uses was a Thomas and Thomas avant 2 7 weight. It just sucked. The 6 weight from the series was nice though.
I just s looked at a Fenwick the other day at Sportsman’s Warehouse that was under $250.00.
 
I just s looked at a Fenwick the other day at Sportsman’s Warehouse that was under $250.00.
I didn’t even know fenwick made fly rods. I’ve never considered them a fly fishing company. Maybe it’s a regional thing but I thought they just made spinning rods for crappie fishing.
 
I just s looked at a Fenwick the other day at Sportsman’s Warehouse that was under $250.00.

I didn’t even know fenwick made fly rods. I’ve never considered them a fly fishing company. Maybe it’s a regional thing but I thought they just made spinning rods for crappie fishing.
The Fenwick Aetos 6wt is a great rod. Not sure what they are now, but I got mine for around $130 pre covid.

Covers all my river bass fly fishing, typically throwing sinking line with the below fly attached. Feels as fast as a spinning rod, I don’t like it at all for indicator fishing, but launches small to mid size streamers with ease. Handles poppers pretty good too, I just don’t typically throw top water.
 

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The Fenwick Aetos 6wt is a great rod. Not sure what they are now, but I got mine for around $130 pre covid.

Covers all my river bass fly fishing, typically throwing sinking line with the below fly attached. Feels as fast as a spinning rod, I don’t like it at all for indicator fishing, but launches small to mid size streamers with ease. Handles poppers pretty good too, I just don’t typically throw top water.
Sounds like it’s been a great value for you. For several years the only thing I had was a st croix imperial 5/6, I think I got it in 1999 and it’s all I had until ~ 2018 or so. I had some cheap reel make by a company called “Argus” and some cheap line. I caught a bunch of fish with that thing over the years.

In college a friend of mine got a scientific anglers setup from Walmart for pretty cheap, less than 75 dollars. It had everything ,line, reel, rod, flies, nippers etc. I remember that guy catching a whole lot of fish out there with me too.
 
Another vote for the Orvis Clearwater 9 ft 5 weight. They have company stores and good customer service should you need it. The Echo Carbon and Fenwick Aetos are also a good bet.
 
I'm a big fan of TFO's especially starting out they have several good options. You can sometimes find models that have been replaced with an updated version for a really good price.
 
I'm a big fan of TFO's especially starting out they have several good options. You can sometimes find models that have been replaced with an updated version for a really good price.
Another bonus to TFO rods is that if you break a section of the rod, you don't need to mess around with warranty forms, packing stuff up, paying postage, you just go on their website, order the replacement part and you're done.

Last rod I broke, I had to email, fill out paperwork, spend like 60 dollars shipping and go to the bank to get a check for 75.00 (I don't even have a checkbook of my own), mail it off and wait like 2 months. I would have been happy to just spend 50 bucks on a replacement section.
 
Orvis Clearwater are a great budget option. I bought my son an Echo and it has been a great one as well. I have had great luck using the the warranty with both companies.
 
Another bonus to TFO rods is that if you break a section of the rod, you don't need to mess around with warranty forms, packing stuff up, paying postage, you just go on their website, order the replacement part and you're done.

Last rod I broke, I had to email, fill out paperwork, spend like 60 dollars shipping and go to the bank to get a check for 75.00 (I don't even have a checkbook of my own), mail it off and wait like 2 months. I would have been happy to just spend 50 bucks on a replacement section.
Same with orvis, as long as it is one of the newer generation rods (h3, new recon/clearwater, h4). Just do the warranty and they will send you the part in the mail.
 
Went to Sportsman’s Warehouse today and saw Redington, TFO, and Okuna all under $100.00 the Redington and Okuna were under $60.00. They didn’t feel like bad rods at all. A little stiff for my liking but better than my old St Croix.
 
Went to Sportsman’s Warehouse today and saw Redington, TFO, and Okuna all under $100.00 the Redington and Okuna were under $60.00. They didn’t feel like bad rods at all. A little stiff for my liking but better than my old St Croix.
Now to wal mart and try one of the 30 dollar ones that comes with a reel.
 
I bought my first two fly rod/reel combos from Wal Mart when I first started. Caught a lot of trout with them. Big trout on the quality waters of the San Juan. 😃
I grew up fishing on the San Juan. One of these days I’ll make a trip back.
 
I grew up fishing on the San Juan. One of these days I’ll make a trip back.
Yep, me too, and lots of southern CO mountain creeks. Still live here but haven’t fished the Quality waters in about 15 years. Why? I have no idea why.
 
Yep, me too, and lots of southern CO mountain creeks. Still live here but haven’t fished the Quality waters in about 15 years. Why? I have no idea why.
Last time I fished there, I boomed a guide for a day long float trip for me and my dad for his birthday, that was like ~ 2002.
 
Maybe the issues are a bit more recent. I took a Rio flats pro to Mexico last summer and it got all chewed up and we weren’t even fishing over coral, just catching mid size bonefish and baby tarpon. I also had a 9wt with an SA grand slam that looks like it’s new even after 3 separate saltwater trips. When I was in Hawaii fishing for bone fish last winter, the guide said he’d given up on Rio lines for the same reason.
There were a couple of posts on flyfishing forums talking about the short life of Rio lines.
IMHO, Sage/Rio has gone cheap on some of their items and cut their warranty coverages drastically.
SA lines for me....
 
There were a couple of posts on flyfishing forums talking about the short life of Rio lines.
IMHO, Sage/Rio has gone cheap on some of their items and cut their warranty coverages drastically.
SA lines for me....
I've switched all my lines out to SA and Airflo at this point. That Rio flats pro was a 130.00 line, it wasn't rubbing on the reel or anything and like I said, we weren't even fishing over coral, just sand, seagrass and then whatever is there in the mangrove backcountry areas, probably just mud. That line had like little pieces missing from it and cuts in it. I've also seen a Rio Elite grand that lost all the the coating off the loop so it was just basically braid in that part and that was after a weekend of fishing in fresh water.
 
When one of the kids or adults in the family wants to start fly fishing, we get one of the moderate fast Reddington 6 weight 9’, 4 piece all in one kits and throw the cheap fly line away and replace it with Scientific Anglers Mastery floating weight forward trout line. 5 weight rod is great for wet and dry flies, but 6 weight helps get a woolybuger or other streamer out there. With the 6 weight rod, dropping to 5 weight on the line can speed it up for aggressive casting in windy conditions or longer distances. With the same 6 wt rod, going up to 7 wt line casts streamers better. If the person really gets into it and wants a smaller or larger rod, a 4 weight pairs well with 6 weight and a dedicated 8 weight streamer rod can round out the top end.

If the wind never blows a 3 wt paired with 5 wt general purpose and 7 wt small streamer rod would be hard to beat. In windy states, starting off with a fast action rod isn’t the worst thing someone can do.

So much depends on a person’s preferences and casting style it’s hard to know what you’ll like in a year. It’s like picking a first rifle.

🙂
 
When one of the kids or adults in the family wants to start fly fishing, we get one of the moderate fast Reddington 6 weight 9’, 4 piece all in one kits and throw the cheap fly line away and replace it with Scientific Anglers Mastery floating weight forward trout line. 5 weight rod is great for wet and dry flies, but 6 weight helps get a woolybuger or other streamer out there. With the 6 weight rod, dropping to 5 weight on the line can speed it up for aggressive casting in windy conditions or longer distances. With the same 6 wt rod, going up to 7 wt line casts streamers better. If the person really gets into it and wants a smaller or larger rod, a 4 weight pairs well with 6 weight and a dedicated 8 weight streamer rod can round out the top end.

If the wind never blows a 3 wt paired with 5 wt general purpose and 7 wt small streamer rod would be hard to beat. In windy states, starting off with a fast action rod isn’t the worst thing someone can do.

So much depends on a person’s preferences and casting style it’s hard to know what you’ll like in a year. It’s like picking a first rifle.

🙂

I've gone to full on 7wt for big streamers. you don't need much rod to chuck wooly buggers, I grew up doing that with a 5wt, even a 4wt.
 
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