BDC reticles

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It looks like Leupold has nothing for me, I was hoping they would... their B&C reticle on the few they have is 150-200 bucks more just for that reticle which doesn’t make sense, but luckily we have options
 

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The allure of the mildot for me is that it's easy to see in any environment, consistent and can be used to rough range and is far from cluttered.
 

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Their is a solid deal on zeiss v4 with ZBR 1. Great scope about half off, link is under gear deals.
 

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I dont understand the BDC thing, its annoying.
Why not use a Mil reticle or MOA reticle, and dial. OR use your reticle for your hold overs....you would literally be doing the same thing as a bdc reticle but then you also have all the other options that come with a mil or moa reticle as far as dialing, holding wind etc.

I really think it should be just duplex, mil or moa reticle. thats it
 
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If you've bowhunted with several fixed pins in your sight, the BDC reticles are just about the same thing X 10. My bow starts at 20 yards and goes out to 60 yards for the 5 pins in 10 yard increments. The majority of the scopes I have with BDC reticules on a varmint or big game centerfire calibers start at 200 yards and go out to 500 yards in nearly 100 yard increments...cheat sheet taped to the side of the stock in my case. Anyway, they are very simple for me to master, and I really don't have any expensive high quality scopes for dialing....although I own a 6.5-20 x 40mm 1" and a couple 4.5-14 x 40 mm 30 mm Leupolds with dials on them for LR prairie dog shooting. They've been reliable enough for that use....which I rarely do since living in BC the past decade.
 

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So what our thoughts on SWFA 2.5-8X32 bdc?

Lightweight from a company who has a good rep.
 

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I agree, like simple BDC reticles.

Nikon's getting out of rifle scopes, but I've been using their simple BDCs for years. Some people hate the circles, they don't bother me most likely because I'm used to them. I've seen a few sales on the discontinued scopes, might be worth a look. The Meopta reticles listed earlier in this thread look good and think that's the direction I'll go on my next scope purchase.
 

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I am in the same boat as the OP. Does anyone else have a recommendation on a quality big game scope with a Ballistic Plex type reticle?
 
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this search was driving me nuts, couldn't find anything I really liked, but got lucky and ordered a scope yesterday.

I found the reticle I wanted, but it wasn't on a scope I wanted... the reticle is the leupold rifleman ballistic reticle, but I figured that would be no better than a Redfield revolution, probably the exact same scope actually, with slightly different aesthetics.

somehow stumbled upon the vx freedom 4-12x40 with the creedmoor reticle, which looks to be the same as the rifleman ballistic reticle, which is exactly what I was hoping for.

I was very close to getting the vortex viper 4-12x40, but the leupold is lighter and a local company, and that has been what I primarily shot on my rifles.

13.1oz should keep the rifle balanced well
 
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I dont understand the BDC thing, its annoying.
Why not use a Mil reticle or MOA reticle, and dial. OR use your reticle for your hold overs....you would literally be doing the same thing as a bdc reticle but then you also have all the other options that come with a mil or moa reticle as far as dialing, holding wind etc.

I really think it should be just duplex, mil or moa reticle. thats it
different strokes man, don't be annoyed that the world doesn't think exactly as you do 😉

for what I do, dials are annoying. I had a vx-3 with the CDS dial, and had to constantly check to make sure it was on zero, which it often wasn't. I took my brother blacktail hunting one day, we only brought my rifle, found a nice 3x3 and I got him set up behind the gun, under 200yds, no missing.... BOOM... deer just stood there, luckily I realized what happened quick, spun the dial back to zero and he made good on the second shot.... another buddy of mine missed a big buck 4 times for the same reason.

I know many have a dial lock, but I don't want to pack an extra 10 ounces in my scope to have a feature I would rarely if ever use in the field.

I like a clean, simple bdc reticle, it fits what I do, and can get them dialed into meaningful aiming points, mostly for just shooting targets.

my furthest shot I have taken at a critter was 497yds, I was spring bear hunting and I spotted a lion walking below me, didn't use the dial on my scope, just knew my hold over and shot, having an aiming point is critical and reliable, it's a good option and a simple bdc reticle is clean and uncluttered.
 

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different strokes man, don't be annoyed that the world doesn't think exactly as you do 😉

for what I do, dials are annoying. I had a vx-3 with the CDS dial, and had to constantly check to make sure it was on zero, which it often wasn't. I took my brother blacktail hunting one day, we only brought my rifle, found a nice 3x3 and I got him set up behind the gun, under 200yds, no missing.... BOOM... deer just stood there, luckily I realized what happened quick, spun the dial back to zero and he made good on the second shot.... another buddy of mine missed a big buck 4 times for the same reason.

I know many have a dial lock, but I don't want to pack an extra 10 ounces in my scope to have a feature I would rarely if ever use in the field.

I like a clean, simple bdc reticle, it fits what I do, and can get them dialed into meaningful aiming points, mostly for just shooting targets.

my furthest shot I have taken at a critter was 497yds, I was spring bear hunting and I spotted a lion walking below me, didn't use the dial on my scope, just knew my hold over and shot, having an aiming point is critical and reliable, it's a good option and a simple bdc reticle is clean and uncluttered.


I totally get what you're saying as far as simplicity of a reticle. I just figure if you want to use a reticle for drops you can us a moa or mil.

or rock a duplex and do max point-blank.

but as you said different strokes. I'm just mad cuz everyone is only carrying BDC reticles at big box stores which sucks
 
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I totally get what you're saying as far as simplicity of a reticle. I just figure if you want to use a reticle for drops you can us a moa or mil.

or rock a duplex and do max point-blank.

but as you said different strokes. I'm just mad cuz everyone is only carrying BDC reticles at big box stores which sucks
my original path was to get a 257wby, and run MPBR on a duplex (maybe VX-R because I love the leupold firedot) that's a very cool setup as far as practicality to me. I ended up going a different direction this time, and going for light weight, and there are no options that I like in the 257WBY that fit that criteria, and I ended up going with the boring old creedmoor…. lots of good lightweight options, and about as practical as it gets for blacktail hunting. I didn't like the MPBR as much on the creed.

I just wanted a very uncluttered simple BDC reticle, mainly for stretching things out shooting targets. it's not too hard to figure out where the BDC marks impact with a little time, and I may sight in in reverse, sight in the bottom dot at 500yds and see where the crosshair ends up, with the scope i'm buying, I bet the crosshairs will end up really close to the spot I would sight in for MPBR.... time will tell.

my hunting will pretty much be MPBR style, that's why I want simplicity, I will be using the crosshair for shooting critters, but I like some other aim points for shooting targets as long as it doesn't clutter the sight picture.

the creedmoor reticle on the leupold i'm getting is perfect, it's just dots below the crosshair, no clutter. shooting without open dials beyond 400 yds at live critters seems sketchy to me, and I just don't need to around here.... shooting 500+, it doesn't take much wind to veer your bullet off course, but shooting targets on the right days out to 500yds is fun to me, and i'll be able to do that with a very lightweight scope, without compromising a clean sight picture.
 

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my original path was to get a 257wby, and run MPBR on a duplex (maybe VX-R because I love the leupold firedot) that's a very cool setup as far as practicality to me. I ended up going a different direction this time, and going for light weight, and there are no options that I like in the 257WBY that fit that criteria, and I ended up going with the boring old creedmoor…. lots of good lightweight options, and about as practical as it gets for blacktail hunting. I didn't like the MPBR as much on the creed.

I just wanted a very uncluttered simple BDC reticle, mainly for stretching things out shooting targets. it's not too hard to figure out where the BDC marks impact with a little time, and I may sight in in reverse, sight in the bottom dot at 500yds and see where the crosshair ends up, with the scope i'm buying, I bet the crosshairs will end up really close to the spot I would sight in for MPBR.... time will tell.

my hunting will pretty much be MPBR style, that's why I want simplicity, I will be using the crosshair for shooting critters, but I like some other aim points for shooting targets as long as it doesn't clutter the sight picture.

the creedmoor reticle on the leupold i'm getting is perfect, it's just dots below the crosshair, no clutter. shooting without open dials beyond 400 yds at live critters seems sketchy to me, and I just don't need to around here.... shooting 500+, it doesn't take much wind to veer your bullet off course, but shooting targets on the right days out to 500yds is fun to me, and i'll be able to do that with a very lightweight scope, without compromising a clean sight picture.


I had a lightweight DIY tikka in 308. I was shooting 165 interlocks hand loaded at around 2633fps

I think the MPBR was 250-275 I think 6.5 Creemore isn't too far off that.

I had a 2-8 vx1 with duplex....great glass for the money. Those Leupold freedoms are actually super nice too!

I hear ya tho, if MPBR is your game there is no need for the big turrets etc. interesting idea working a BDC backward.
 

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Ended up going with a FX3 6X42 with a LRD reticle. Took awhile to find one.


Have yet to shoot it, heck, don't even have it mounted.
 

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I have a Bushnell Forge with the deploy moa reticle in FFP. It has locking turrets that you have to pull up to make adjustments which makes it less likely to be bumped out of adjustment when packing. The elevation turret also has a zero stop so you know immediately if it has somehow or another been bumped. I had the same concerns as you did but the locking turrets and zero stop is what sold me on this scope.
 

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Mounted and shot today in a howling wind.

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Sighted in at 100 the top of the first dot is 200. Couldn't see these hits in the spotter and thought something was wrong. LOL. What are the odds all three hit the edge.

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Pretty happy with it thus far. The glass sucks compared to the SWFA I took off, but I think in the end it will do what I want. Haven't shot a rifle since I killed my buck on Thanksgiving so pretty happy with that group in the wind. Kind of a new experience for me but I have plenty of time to practice.
 

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I am in the same boat as the OP. Does anyone else have a recommendation on a quality big game scope with a Ballistic Plex type reticle?

Man honestly, I have run this search to the ground, and only come up with one... Burris Fullfield. Light, good quality construction, uncluttered reticle, lifetime warranty, good image clarity. It's not a Zeiss or Nightforce optically, but the optical quality is more than good enough for my purposes. I now have three and all of them are rock solid. Only complaint is that, as mentioned before, the entire rear bell rotates when you change magnification, making flip up covers a PITA. Other than that, I have tried quite hard and had difficulty finding almost anyone who's had a problem with them.

Only other on I can find is the SWFA Ultralight. Never had any experience with them personally, but they look super solid.
 
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