Barnes TTSX

[rclouse79]

I have not noticed that, but now I have to go look. My fingers are crossed that you just got a bad batch.

 

[Gargoyle]

Of course they don't all look like that. You go on to say your T-EZ bullets are prefect. You answered your own question.

Brah, that's like a wholly separate product line.

When a company make millions of anything, nothing is perfect.

Nosler has Accubonds that tips fall out of or break because they are brittle, better not pay that price for that bullet. Heard of Nosler Partitons in their Trophy grade ammo with voids in the sides of the tips or broken tips.

Let Barnes make it right and move on.

Are you the Rock's Barnes apologetics representative?

 

[35WhelenAI]

Brah, just got 100 .358 180 TTSX from Midway last week. Tips are fine.

Nice target!

 

[TheHammer]

This is common, barnes will share with you their Doppler radar results in testing of off center tips, n then go on to tell you how others tips melt in flight so what difference does it make? They will also replace them, but don’t be surprised if they send you identical looking ones back. If it’s factory ammo they want the whole 20 back.

 

[freddyG]

They are probably running full bore due to the demand created the last couple of years. I have loaded a bunch of the older ones, and while they had the odd problem bullet every once in a great while, they were good quality.

 

[Gargoyle]

Brah, just got 100 .358 180 TTSX from Midway last week. Tips are fine.

Nice target!


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Nice bullet! I just forgot I got a sealed box of 180 TTSX in the armory. I gotta open that baby right now and check! LOL

 

[Gargoyle]

This is common, barnes will share with you their Doppler radar results in testing of off center tips, n then go on to tell you how others tips melt in flight so what difference does it make? They will also replace them, but don’t be surprised if they send you identical looking ones back. If it’s factory ammo they want the whole 20 back.

SO, it's a non issue? Nobody is reporting accuracy issues past 100yds?

 

[A382DWDZQ]

I'd say a Monday morning batch there, and I got a Friday afternoon!

Or yours are the Monday morning after a hard weekend bender…

 

[JFK]

SO, it's a non issue? Nobody is reporting accuracy issues past 100yds?

It’s a non issue. The LRX I’m sitting on look better than the pics you posted but I’ve shot ones that look like that and they were fine. Hell, I’ve pulled the tips out and shot them and didn’t notice anything. But I agree, that for the price of them they should show up looking better.

 

[freddyG]

This is common, barnes will share with you their Doppler radar results in testing of off center tips, n then go on to tell you how others tips melt in flight so what difference does it make? They will also replace them, but don’t be surprised if they send you identical looking ones back. If it’s factory ammo they want the whole 20 back.

What else are they going to say? No company is going to come out and incriminate themselves for having shitty QC.

 

[sndmn11]

I've had some ttsx and LRX were a little off and I don't notice it in target.

For those saying things went downhill recently, I did receive a .243win cartridge in a box of factory 7-08 cartridges in Feb 2020.

 

[TheHammer]

SO, it's a non issue? Nobody is reporting accuracy issues past 100yds?

I haven’t seen accuracy reports. From anyone damning them on accuracy. But I haven’t gone looking for them either. All I shoot is barnes in my hunting rifles and practice frequently, personally a 2.7” 3shot group at 600 yds out of a hot hunting load with a 24” barrel, this being my worst group with tips like that on some 200gr lrx. As that setup has done under 1” at 600 with tips like those. Attached is 2 422yd 5shot groups with offset tips, shots were seconds apart and groups are near identical, so I would confirm that the rep I dealt with wasn’t wrong. By stating “it doesn’t matter much if any” when referring to my complaints of offset tips. I haven’t shot any 150s or 168s that looked like that, slower velocities might be the difference maker, idk. And the 190lrx ammunition I had they exchanged and shot great out to 250yds (that’s all the further I shot those) sold them to a buddy, his bergara likes them and he’s comfortable at 400. Barnes has decent customer service from my experience.

 

[TheHammer]

Should be more then enough to lay a foundation of confidence! While aesthetically they might not be pleasing. I’m convinced above 2000fps it makes no difference.

 

[gbflyer]

What’s going on at the base is way, way more important than the tip. At least that’s what I remember from bullet making lessons. Some of the best shooting match bullets have pretty funky looking front ends. Some competitors used to get excited with trimming meplats, I don’t know if that’s still a thing.

Borrowed from the Internet:

 

[Dark timber]

How about the consistent cannelure placement...

 

[thinhorn_AK]

I have several boxes of 150g ttsx bullets and a dozen or so boxes of loaded ammo, I also have a few hundred rounds I loaded up. I just took a quick look and none of it looks like that. (I didn’t open every box or anything but the ones I did looked normal.)

 

[Vern400]

They're shooting acceptable at 100yds for the load development at least.

I took some 308 Sierra Spitzer boat tails 150 or 165 grain and boogered up the tips real bad on the reloading bench. Some tips were completely flattened and some were bent over to the side probably 3 mm. At the hundred yard mark there was very little difference. But the world started to fall apart at 300 and 400. I know it's not necessarily an option for everybody but I really don't do any load development below 200 yd. I'm just saying sometimes you have to stretch it out a little bit to find a problem. In the case of those bullets, nosler or Sierra wouldn't even sell those as factory seconds.

 

[Gargoyle]

Here are .308 180 TTSX bought 3yrs ago:


They completely missed the tips on these!

 

[Macintosh]

I do feel like Ive seen more issues in the past 2-ish years than previously, and I think various threads on the subject reinforce that impression. Before 2020 I had never seen any of these issues. Inwasnt looking per se but I feel like what ive seen is obvious enough that I would have noticed it. I certainly dont have data to quantify that though. To those that say shut up and shoot, if we dont say something Barnes DEFINITELY wont improve QC, shutting up and shooting just enables quality to continue slipping. Its the nature of things.
I have not noticed a problem at 100 or 200 yards, but it also makes me wonder if the obvious stuff isnt right, what about the rest thats harder to see? Doesnt mean Im swearing off Barnes (yet). But it does open the door for a competitor. Lots of stuff has slipped during/after covid and adding huge demand spikes doesnt help that, so the question to me is do they work to get back to where I think they were, or are they going to allow this to be the new normal? When barnes was purchased did they move to a different production facility? That rarely helps either.

 

[Doc Holliday]

Not a good look for the price you pay for Barnes Bullets. Poor quality control.

Barnes are actually the cheapest bullets going right now, as far as controlled expansion