Banning Hunting Tech in Idaho

[nubraskan]

I know a guy with a therm who agrees with you and supports this restriction during hunting season. His experience says "they're too effective"

Couldn't agree more for deer / elk and the like. I have a thermal scope that I use for coyotes / racoons, on a night with ideal conditions I have actually walked right up to a feeding deer on a moonless night and I was debating if I was going to touch it or not just to say that I did. It finally figured it out when I was <6 feet away

 

[sndmn11]

80% of how our 8yo gets to share the outdoors with us is through trail cams and scouting. It's safe for him to tag along in August from a weather standpoint, and there's nobody out for his singing or buffonary to annoy. The past two seasons we have left cameras out all fall into the spring and it has been fun to see what we capture.

It's also shocking that we have only captured 2 other hunters but lots of animals.

Thermals for recovering game.jist like tracking dogs I can get behind.

Using a cell cam in season to help your hunt I cannot support, but don't have a problem with non-cellular.

I'd LOVELOVELOVE to get a drone above my dog when we are hunting birds to record our hunts, but not use at that moment. It would be fun to replay it and see how roosters run.

I'd also be down for an open sights centerfire and traditional bow season here in Colorado.

 

[Coopsdaddy]

Everyone has there limit,
garmins new range finder and its capabilities is to far for me.
OnX is awesome but some of the features is borderline.
All the people complaining about all the hunter in the woods and all this contributes.
If maps,compasses,no side by sides had to be fallowed that would eliminate a bunch of people right there.
No way drones should be used.
I don’t even think they should for downed game.
Work for it

 

[Rich M]

I see thermal drones doing herd counts across the Midwest, that's though tree coverage.

Not all thermal optics are equal and the advancements are making them better everyday. Also as technology increases the older stuff just gets cheaper and cheaper.



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I was talking about hand held stuff - hard to see thru trees.

Totally get the drones - they can see thru the tree tops pretty easy.

Lots of guys carry thermal for finding hit/dead animals. Just seems pricey to me.

I have a cell cam. It mostly tells me when i shoulda been there. Also use it for camp security.

 

[voltage]

Great podcast. Thanks for putting it together.

I think thermals should be banned BUT I think the law would be very hard to enforce. When a rule is tough to enforce, it only hurts the honest people that probably already thought the technology was too far anyway.

 

[IdahoJoe29]

The boys back east say they don't work well in the woods. Can see them being a big boost out in the open.

They work amazing in the woods of north Idaho. Which is an issue

 

[IdahoJoe29]

My buddy talked to one of the reps that is on the legislative committee going through the rule change right now and according to him it won’t leave the floor. Says there are a lot of lobbyists in their ear that are against it. So if you support banning this stuff you need to reach out and show your support.

 

[Idagnome]

Good podcast. Kinda simple, but laying out how increased success rates can easily lead to shorter seasons and less opportunity was the nail in the coffin for me. The semantics of what tech is too much or too little will be argued for years regardless of outcome. As an Idaho resident not going hunting, having shorter seasons, or more limited/capped zones is not something I’m interested in. We’ll all use whatever tech is legal right up to the limit to increase lethality, I can live with some rules that are enforced.

 

[z987k]

There's some guys in the Baltics that have a youtube channel covering thermal drones hunting people. In relation to a war nearby. They are stupidly effective. If a human is that completely screwed, animals have no chance at all.

 

[Hunterscamera]

Interesting listen will definitely reach out to our EO

 

[robby denning]

Is there a rule # we need to reference when reaching out to our legislators?

I didn't catch one in the episode

 

[Hunthigh1]

Good podcast. I support the rules and will be contacting legislators in support.

@robby denning

I believe it is docket#
13-0108-2401 as attached below-

Someone please correct me if I’m wrong

https://idfg.idaho.gov/sites/default/files/13-0108-2401-proposed-rule-1025.pdf

 

[fattyboy70]

Maybe I’m the outlier but I thought the podcast sounded like 2 guys advocating for what fits their lifestyle best. Obviously one loves muzzleloader hunting and was able to get a unit he hunts changed from a rifle controlled hunt and has seen success in deer numbers because of it. Well obviously! As stated 3% of hunters go out with a smoke pole, that works until all opportunities turn to that because of restrictions and then everyone will have a muzzleloader. The other guy sounds older and sees things through the “back in my day” lens. He made a statement more or less like “they don’t have to do what I did back in the 80s”. I could talk to my 90yr neighbor that chased and ear tagged deer on horseback for fun and he’d have something to say about his “technology “ advancements in the 80s.
Also, they spoke about predators a little and the one gentlemen said “I don’t hunt wolves I hunt antlers “ like that makes sense at all. We talk about technologies that are used for a 4 week season as unethical and then the other 11 months we sit on the couch thinking about how to restrict more stuff so I can see more deer. May I suggest leaving the house and going to kill some coyotes, lions, wolves. Lions are hell on deer and we have way more lions that what you think in Idaho. Also may I suggest an exercise, go to a known wolf territory and get somewhere you can see elk and deer and let out a howl. Tell me how the deer react compared to elk. We just found a 180” wolf kill buck the other weekend. Guranteed that isn’t the only deer they’ve eaten.

I’ll finish with stats are something we do know and harvest numbers haven’t changed in the last 25yrs even with technology advancements. If the argument is that we get it done faster than in the 80s when it took 2 weeks instead of 4 days then stick to that narrative.

*What’s funny is while listening there’s the onx advertisement and Robby is promoting the new lidar technology. No one wants to limit the mini computer in our pocket.