Back Pain Sleeping Pad/System

[Mtn_Nomad]

I unfortunately started struggling with back aches and pain throughout the night. Sleep on my back and side throughout the night. Last year I was using a Nemo Tensor and it was not kind to me. Looking for a better nights sleep. Hammock? Self Inflated Pads? Thicker pad? Help please. Thanks!

 

[Legend]

I unfortunately started struggling with back aches and pain throughout the night. Sleep on my back and side throughout the night. Last year I was using a Nemo Tensor and it was not kind to me. Looking for a better nights sleep. Hammock? Self Inflated Pads? Thicker pad? Help please. Thanks!

Backcountry or truck camp?

 

[Mtn_Nomad]

Backcountry or truck camp?

Backcountry. I have a cot for base camps.

 

[Legend]

I went with air thick pad, down exped. It sleeps pretty good. I believe the pillow is key as a rolled up coat just isn't the same as at home. Get a good backcountry pillow.

 

[djewell87]

I played around with some pads and I have a Big Agnes Q Core SLX which has been replaced with the Rapide SL. I'm a side sleeper with back problems and it works great. My son has been in and of the hospital for the past year and we've slept on it in hospital rooms for months inflating and deflating and traveling to different hospitals. I know that isn't normal use that you would think of, but we haven't had any leaks or issues at all. I have an Exped that has better R value about as comfortable, but I'm impressed with the comfort and how well the Big Agnes held up.

 

[ScreamingPotato]

It's just going to depend on your back. If that Tensor isn't working I'm not sure any pad is gonna be that much better, I'd at least try a hammock and see how it goes. Some guys absolutely love them.

 

[nodakian]

I unfortunately started struggling with back aches and pain throughout the night. Sleep on my back and side throughout the night. Last year I was using a Nemo Tensor and it was not kind to me. Looking for a better nights sleep. Hammock? Self Inflated Pads? Thicker pad? Help please. Thanks!

Side sleeper with bad back here, too. I feel your pain. After suffering with a couple 2"-2.5" pads, I tested several 3.5"-4" pads with the idea that the extra thickness would allow more inflation adjustment. Two major conclusions:

1) Extra thickness was critical for inflation adjustment. I get best results around 80% inflation--enough for flexibility and also keeps my shoulders and hips from touching the ground.

2) The Nemo Tensor with its side-to-side baffles did me WRONG. Whether on my side or back, I could feel it making things VERY bad. Length-wise baffles worked much better for me.

A small pad, empty backpack, pile of clothes, or inflatable pillow about under my knees sometimes helps things, too. I haven't needed it lately, but it's an option.

I started with a Big Agness Insulated Q-Cor which lasted a couple years until it leaked (common with BA pads, I later learned). I now use an Exped Downmat Ultra 7R. Only 2 pounds (25"x72"), R7 insulation, no noises....I love it.

Good luck with your search.

 

[TaperPin]

I can have problems getting comfortable - more so every year.

Sleeping at home on the pad I’ll be camping with is a game changer - that and don’t forget pain meds if you need it or not.

 

[Decker9]

I don’t drink, but I do take overproof rum and mix a oz with an orange tea before bed. Helps my achy back and helps me sleep better, and wakes me up about 4-5 am for a leak, double duty’s as an alarm clock lol.

Iv been using exped pads a bunch of years, my back prefers them then the horizontal baffle pads it seems.

 

[mountainman406]

A few ruptured disks and sciatica have me paying the weight/bulk penalty every time for a thick Exped Megamat. It’s the only one I’ve found that doesn’t make the back pain worse and I’ve been using the same one for a few years now. As others have stated, a decent pillow is key as well, still searching for that….


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[Mtn_Nomad]

Side sleeper with bad back here, too. I feel your pain. After suffering with a couple 2"-2.5" pads, I tested several 3.5"-4" pads with the idea that the extra thickness would allow more inflation adjustment. Two major conclusions:

1) Extra thickness was critical for inflation adjustment. I get best results around 80% inflation--enough for flexibility and also keeps my shoulders and hips from touching the ground.

2) The Nemo Tensor with its side-to-side baffles did me WRONG. Whether on my side or back, I could feel it making things VERY bad. Length-wise baffles worked much better for me.

A small pad, empty backpack, pile of clothes, or inflatable pillow about under my knees sometimes helps things, too. I haven't needed it lately, but it's an option.

I started with a Big Agness Insulated Q-Cor which lasted a couple years until it leaked (common with BA pads, I later learned). I now use an Exped Downmat Ultra 7R. Only 2 pounds (25"x72"), R7 insulation, no noises....I love it.

Good luck with your search.

A few ruptured disks and sciatica have me paying the weight/bulk penalty every time for a thick Exped Megamat. It’s the only one I’ve found that doesn’t make the back pain worse and I’ve been using the same one for a few years now. As others have stated, a decent pillow is key as well, still searching for that….


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I have a Nemo Fillo. But with crap pads I'm not sure if the pillow or the pads sucked

 

[HingleMcCringleberry]

Big Agnes rapide sl is a thick comfortable pad that's reasonable.

 

[Macintosh]

Im in the same boat, 25 years ago I thought nothing of spending 100 nights a year on an old-school 1” thermarest pad, and thought it was so much better than the 1/2” ensolite I grew up on.
Fast forward, and I barely get a wink in. I go 50:50 back/side and need to adjust frequently even in bed at home. Currently using a 2.5” nemo pad that is decent, with a 4’ length of ridgerest pad under it to avoid flat spots. but I still need a few key things, Im close but not fully there. A really good pillow thats thick enough so it works off the back of the pad. And a relatively thick roll of something under my knees for when Im on my back…really helps my back, as I just cant deflate the pads enough for comfort without them going totally flat. I use a piece of a full-size foam pillow that I cut the short way so its about 10” wide. It stuffs fairly small and is pretty light, but I find it helps a lot. And I usually use a drybag with a fleece and some extra clothes under my knees. We do a hunting trip that has boat access every other year or so, on that weight isnt really a concern, I add a 1.5” open-cell foam mat over the inflatable mat, and that makes life a LOT more comfortable, but its a no-go backpacking.

 

[IAm_Not_Lost]

I’m a side sleeper and the most important features for me for preventing sore backs is the type pad thickness, as well as my pillow.

I tried a few different pads (Thermarest, solid foam, knockoffs, etc) and eventually found that the Klymit pads were best for me for evenly distributing weight for side sleeping and laying on my back.

They don’t seem like much of you just inflate them and sit on them, but once you actually lay down on them…I haven’t personally found a more comfortable pad.

 

[CODisco]

Justin has a review going on of the Born Outdoor Badger Bed - link. I have one and love it! I'm a slide sleeper and don't feel anything on my back even if I'm using it directly on the ground. It's a fully integrated bed roll so it's super easy to set up and roll up when you need to go. It doesn't use canvas so the top layer is breathable and allows that moisture to wick away. Thickness is important (4 inches for the Thermarest MondoKing) but R value is more important! This mattress has a R value of 7 so it's plenty warm and you don't loose any body heat from below. Worth a look...

 

[isherwood91]

Thick isn't an option when camping off a motorcycle or hunting pack. I've never found a thin sleeping pad that keeps my shoulders from aching the next morning as a side sleeper.

That's why I now sleep in nothing but a hammock. My wife has the same problem with her hips. She doesn't camp rough with me much, but even she prefers hanging to laying on the ground when she does.

I have a Hennessy Expedition Asym. I have a Jacks R Better underquilt. I will be getting their topquilt as well because it packs down smaller than the thin sleeping bag I've been using as a top quilt and which has left me suffering in the low 40s.

I admit that I haven't hunted with this setup yet, but I've done enough backpacking and camping in life to know it's what I would choose.

 

[Macintosh]

Reviving this old thread. The wife and I are both mid-50’s, both have trouble sleeping on backpacking mats. We are both fidgety side and back sleepers. She’s curvy. I’m 6’4, 200lb. Current setup is a nemo vector pad (3”x25x75, 22oz), a 12” piece of a full-size foam pillow (6oz), and a short ridgerest under the pad (8oz). Also detailed above in my previous post, although as we age Im finding this less and less workable. The “real” pillow is a gamechanger that probably isnt on the table for a change. But sleeping pads are. I’d really like to keep total pad weight under 2lb if possible, but we’re already at 1lb 14oz and it simply isnt enough. Hammok may not be an option given we camp in the open sometimes, ie nothing to attach it to at times.

Any ideas folks have for pad(s) that might be more comfortable would be very appreciated for a pad system that will give a better nights sleep than what we have!!

 

[sneaky]

Thermarest NEOLOFT may be worth taking a look at

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[AZ_Hunter_2000]

Have you looked at the Helinox Lite Cot or equivalent?

 

[Macintosh]

Have you looked at the Helinox Lite Cot or equivalent?

No. I assumed stuff like this would be heavy and take up too much room. Have you used? Thoughts? It does seem reallyy bulky and adds 3/4 lb. Better than id thought but seems excessive. Guess ill leep it in the back of my mind and check it out next time im in an rei or something. Im hoping i can find something closer to the weight of our current setup.

I love this!! The power of positive thinking!